S.C. motorists riled by prices
The Post and Courier
Tuesday, September 16, 2008
Wade Spees The Post and Courier
Jannai Bryant said he's not surprised by the $3.99-per-gallon cost of gas 'since Ike came through and took out a couple of our refineries.' Bryant spent $6 at a pump in Summerville on Monday. 'I only get what I need,' he said. Others haven't been as accepting of high prices.
To report gouging
If you suspect a gasoline station is price gouging, record the price before and after the increase and report it to local law enforcement agencies. Complaints also can be made to Attorney General Henry McMaster's Office via e-mail at gasprices@scattorneygeneral.com. An information line has been activated at 803-734-3970.
COLUMBIA — Angry motorists called in more than 3,000 complaints of gasoline price gouging to the South Carolina Attorney General's Office since Hurricane Ike first threatened to make landfall. Now, state officials have to decide what is criminal and what simply is a painful part of doing business. Determining if any of the cases involve actual price gouging depends on whether the retailers or wholesalers jacked up the prices above market fluctuations and any additional costs they shouldered. Prices hovering around $5 will be considered the most suspicious, Attorney General Henry McMaster said Monday.
McMaster invoked the state's anti-gouging law Friday and immediately set up a hot line and e-mail address to take complaints. The complaints flooded in. "They are all serious," McMaster said. But, he said, it's too early to determine if or when his office would bring charges. Residents can continue to report suspected gouging. Addie Sanders of Summerville reported three stations this weekend, and although disgusted by what she saw, she could have turned in even more, she said. One North Charleston station did not advertise all of its prices from the road, instead blocking the numbers with paper, she said. "I said, 'What's going on?' I think they are jumping on the bandwagon. They are hearing the news and they are jumping on the bandwagon just to put money in their pocket, Sanders said. "It's nothing but price gouging," she said. The next step for McMaster is to sort through the complaints and prioritize the most serious, look for repeated names and patterns and then conduct interviews and issue subpoenas if necessary, he said. Because gas prices should be based on the free market, McMaster said it is important not to wrongly penalize retailers or wholesalers, who base their prices on the future availability of fuel, not what is currently in stock. "No government office has control over gas prices. That is the free market that determines that," McMaster said. "No one is suggesting that we abandon that." Price gougers face criminal and civil fines of up to $6,000 and 30 days in jail for every consumer who pays the inflated prices. "It ain't worth it," McMaster said.
Reach Yvonne Wenger at 803-799-9051 or ywenger@postandcourier.com.
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Posted by UrGatorbait on September 16, 2008 at 1:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Once again the economically challenged dunder heads of SC and the P&C show their abject stupidity and scream price gouging. Yawn.
These folks will go home, open up their fast food feast, turn on the 50"plasma and watch the local news dolts egg on the gas price hysteria.
It's no wonder we are stuck with Barackstar, the old guy and Caribou Barbie as choices.
Again it's basic economics.
Ya know if they keep saying it's price gouging, eventually they'll believe it.
Idiots like Sanders need a life. Drama queens are those people trying to run a business into ground with idle gossip. That same business, she loudly proclaims, they are up to something! Provides idiots like her, the gas for her heroic crusade to drive around and waste gas to see who's "breaking" a law she probably knows little or better yet, next to nothing about. A gossip causing problems. Shock surprise.
Posted by beespencer on September 16, 2008 at 1:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Where is a gator when I need one...
Posted by UrGatorbait on September 16, 2008 at 1:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)
They are being hunted....cue Jaws music....
Posted by chucktonian on September 16, 2008 at 1:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
there is no such thing as price gouging. simple supply and demand
Posted by beespencer on September 16, 2008 at 2:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Actually, the Charleston area should be happy that prices weren't as high as Columbia and Western N.C. area, which price were as high as $7 per gallon
Posted by WhoCares on September 16, 2008 at 5:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Sure glad I held onto my Exxon-Mobil stocks!!!
Posted by tues_nite on September 16, 2008 at 6:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
it's not simple supply and demand. add speculation and greed. hope the tooth fairy comes tonight and leaves that nickel under your pillow.
Posted by moonpie on September 16, 2008 at 6:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
tues_nite is correct. There was no disruption in supply to cause a spike like this it was pure greed and hype and GOUGING. If a hurricane that was about to hit caused this then our oil and gas markets are in dire need of repair. There has been reports now that IKE caused NO DAMAGE to the refineries so lets play ball drop them back down to pre IKE prices!
Until the state prosecutes someone you'll get this with every hurricane in the gulf, every terroist attack, and every hard fart into the wind!
How about Gov Marks comment off to the side? Sounds like Obamas "inflate your tires" plan for energy independence!
Posted by jammer on September 16, 2008 at 6:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
SOMEBODY IS price gouging and SOMEONE needs to get to the bottom of it quickly!!
I don't care if it's not the stations selling it to the end user, if it's not them then it's the refiners... but either way WE are getting RIPPED OFF and NO ONE is listening or doing ANYTHING about it !!!
how is oil $91 a barrel and we are still paying nearly $4 a gallon???? explain that??????? or better yet FIX that !!!
we have a bunch of out of touch lame representatives all through our government... somehow we need to get rid of ALL of them because they sure don't seem to be helping with anything we the people actually need help with right now
we're all getting ripped off and they are sitting back saying there's nothing they can do... what a bunch of BS
Posted by jammer on September 16, 2008 at 6:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)
gas/diesel should be under $2 a gallon right now, why isn't it? because we have to have it and who we buy it from can get away with ripping us off more everyday
if this area had decent public transportation the demand would drop exponentially and then maybe the prices would come down... but even that's doubtful
Posted by DanniD on September 16, 2008 at 6:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
All the hype around the so called "gas shortage" that everyone freaked out about last week has caused several gas stations to run out of gas along Rivers and other areas in N. Charleston. (as of last night anyway). I am glad that happened to those gas stations, lets see them make money now without any gas. Dumb arses!!!
Posted by DoaMM on September 16, 2008 at 7:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Paid $3.99/gallon this morning, and was happy...
Had to push my truck 3 miles, uphill, both ways, in knee deep snow...and was happy...
You youngsters, I tell ya...
Posted by sixcar on September 16, 2008 at 7:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I have had enough! I am going to report price gouging at the movie theaters! Those evil greedy movie moguls are ripping us off! I was forced to pay $4 for a coca cola, and $5 for a bag of popcorn! This is an outrage! I demand justice! I demand government intervention at the highest levels!
Turn those machine back on! Turn those machines back on! (Ralph Belamy--Trading Places)
Posted by downtownguy on September 16, 2008 at 7:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Gas station owners have the right to sell their product at any price they wish. It's called capitalism. If you don't like the price, you have a right not to buy it.
Posted by crankyyankee on September 16, 2008 at 7:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)
When I traveled in Europe ten years ago, gas was over $1.50 a liter. That's over $6 a gallon for those educated here. They didn't squawk about it then and they must be laughing out loud at the panic were in over $4 a gallon gas now. Why in the world we expect Government to subsidize oil prices so we can have cheap gas is a mystery to me? Our population is only about 5% of the world population but we by far are the largest consummers of energy. Did I tell you that they don't like us much over there. We are like spoiled children wanting everything without giving a thing. I want free health care with the cheap tank of gas! There are some hard times ahead I hope your children are up to it. Not!
Posted by WhoCares on September 16, 2008 at 8 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Still happy I didn't dump my Exxon/mobil stocks :) Whine all you want, but as long as you're driving (and buying gas) you're making me rich :)) I Love You All.....
Posted by Tammie on September 16, 2008 at 8:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Caribou Barbie?? Lmao
It sucks that gas has gone up but the price of oil is steadily going down. But no matter how much we complain, most of us will buy it. I'll be happy when it goes back down though!
Posted by theronce on September 16, 2008 at 8:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Just like everything else these days, what's mine is mine, and what's mine is yours too.
Posted by counterpoint on September 16, 2008 at 8:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Anyone who passed on the rumor that "there would be gas shortages" and told their friends to "top your tanks off now" is as responsible for this increase as anyone else.
Don't like the price of gas? Don't buy it. Not an option? Then you obviously like the price.
Posted by counterpoint on September 16, 2008 at 8:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Completely off topic, but I didn't see a story on it... Did any of you East Cooper / Islands folks hear or feel a big bang last night around 9:30?
Posted by suec on September 16, 2008 at 8:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I think the price of milk eggs and bread at Piggly Wiggly are too high! Price gouging! Price Gouging!
So what if I can go to WalMart and buy it cheaper! I want an investigation as to why the Pig is price gouging consumers!!!
Ha ha but no more ridiculous than this waste of time.
Posted by zekemire on September 16, 2008 at 8:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Here is a question to be answered logically! The free market normally works amazingly! However in times of natural disasters or other emergencies there are always individuals and some organizations trying to reap a windfall from others misfortune! If it is price gouging for Lowes or Home Depot to charge $40 for a normally priced at $20 sheet of plywood, then it is price gouging for gas wholesalers to charge exhorbitantly higher prices for ga when the actual price of oil is stable or even going down! PERIOD! All the liberals and democrats keep sayign the oil companies are reaping winfall profits from the price of oil, but, those people are ignorant! If the percentage of profit remains virtually the same, THAT IS NO WINDFALL! In this case there is a windfall because the base price of oil has actually gone down significantly, and, the wholesalers have arbitrarily raised the price to the gas staions! When a wholesaler calls a station and tells them to raise their price 50 cents overnight, that is criminal and needs to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law!! Our Attorney General needs to go after all these wholesalers whether they are in SC, GA, or, any other state! If a gas station has added more than their price has increased, they must be prosecuted, and put in jail, not just slapped on the hand with a frivilous fine!!
Posted by charleston1960 on September 16, 2008 at 8:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Patron: Set me up! <psssft - the sound of a 12oz beer being opened.> Can you believe that gas is now $3.99 a gallon?
Bartender: Yeh, it’s outrageous.
Patron: Sure is, please give me another beer. <psssft> The nerve of them charging that much. <Lights cigarette> How am I going to be able to afford the gas to get to work. Give me another beer, oh and throw in a pack of cigarettes, I only have 2 left. <psssft> Oh well I got to go, ring me out please.
Bartender: Let’s see, 3 beers oh and a pack of cigarettes, that will be $9.50 sir.
Patron: Ok no problem see you tomorrow.
If you don’t drink beer, change out the beer with bottled water. Change out the cigarettes with a fast food meal. It’s all the same.
Posted by UrGatorbait on September 16, 2008 at 8:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Right on cue uber patriot Thomas and the rest of the Gubmint lovers crawl from under there rocks. Ya can't take care of yourselves, don't want to try and understand simple economics so you act stupid(I wonder) and scream price gouging.
Oil has to be refined. It has to be stored, it has to be transported and it has to be dispensed. All that costs money, then add the hurricane, the greed of the average stupid american, ill informed ignorant and lazy thinking, entitlement mentality and you have a recipe for what is happening now.
Spankerbuns, wipe off your chin, you're dribbling along with the rest of the simpletons.
Keep saying it to yourselves, it's price gouging, click your heels three times and it'll be true.
Posted by glevans on September 16, 2008 at 9:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Ok, you people are definately being screwed. I live in Texas and our gas prices are up anywhere from 5 to 15 cents per gallon. We are not seeing gas prices that high anywhere and I really don't think it is necessary to raise the prices that high. All the gas stations that we passed on the way to work this morning where anywhere from $3.40 to $3.65 per gallon for regular.
Posted by RTC on September 16, 2008 at 9:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
counterpoint, I did. I was sitting outside talking on the phone, and I heard what sounded like an explosion.
Posted by guidedbystewart on September 16, 2008 at 9:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
UrGatorbait,
Why so passionate about this subject matter? Why such the soapbox arrogance? Don't you think greedy people take advantage of a situation? Why are you so sure price gauging doesn't take place? Are you profiting from this very enterprise?
Posted by UrGatorbait on September 16, 2008 at 9:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)
That was a pretty good game last night.
Posted by guidedbystewart on September 16, 2008 at 9:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)
http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperatur...
Maybe enquiring minds might want to know.
Posted by beespencer on September 16, 2008 at 9:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Urgatorbait and eyfigueroa
that was one of the better games i have seen in years
Posted by UrGatorbait on September 16, 2008 at 9:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Why am I so passionate about thinking, being informed and my dislike of fear mongers/economically challenged/government dependent folks? Because it's a sad state when you have to depend on the government for everything and expect them to solve something you can solve your self.
Do you have a retirement fund stewart? A lot of folks profit from the oil companies as they are tied into a lot of retirement and pension funds. So ya tax the crap out of them and watch the markets go bananas and collapse us even further.
Soapbox arrogance? Wow. Facts suck don't they? I have no problem with people making money and earning a living. You apparently do.
If those people are "gouging"(say enough it'll be true) then you don't buy from them. Economics.
I have no doubt people take advantage of others but to try and paint it as a GOP/Dem political stunt is disingenuous and adds nothing to the economics of the situation.
You or others have ZERO facts about anyone price gouging but bandy it about like fact. Makes for good print and whine. There are more than enough intellectually lazy and just plain stupid folks out there who'll buy the lie wholesale. A true victim mentality when things don't go your way. Price gouging laws are set in place in the state of SC during state of emergencies in the state. I must have missed where we were struck by a hurricane. Sorry.
Posted by VMI90 on September 16, 2008 at 9:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
gator....you have left out a HUGE detail in your long-winded diatribe: gasoline is an INELASTIC product, which means there are NO SUITABLE substitutes, so technically it not the free market. If the price of OJ goes up, I can stop purchasing it and buy apple juice. Same thing with many other products. However, if the price of gasoline continues to increase, we have no choice but to purchase it. I cannot put water or any other liquid in my tank. That is the point that most who call us dolts and not understanding economics state. Actually, it is the folks that don't talk about the inelasticity of gasoline that don't understand economics.
Posted by robbybobby on September 16, 2008 at 10:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Cowboys looked good.
Posted by wjhamilton3 on September 16, 2008 at 10:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It's fascinating to watch the Republicans go screaming to a Republican Attorney General over free market responses to a possible disruption in supply. Many of the people who own these stations may not have an extra two to five thousand dollars left in the bank to pay for their next tanker load of gas over what they budgeted. They have to replace what they've sold. If they can't, they'll shut down.
This panic shows people have no confidence in the President and his administration.
I would find it very hard to believe that no damage was done to any refineries. Hugo smashed outdoor installations at major industrial facilities here. It takes days to restart production after they get reliable electrical power. We've go to be facing at least a temporary disruption in supply and transportation of fuel from Texas.
Oil is falling in cost because consumption is declining due to the contraction in the economy. People are skipping long distance travel. They're taking the bus. Sales and thus deliveries and trucking are down. I'm glad we're using less oil, but the recession/conservation plan has some pretty major collateral impacts.
Posted by singleroni on September 16, 2008 at 10:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
http://www.thetimesnews.com/news/supply_...
Read this NC is calling for records and look to charge gas stations
Posted by guidedbystewart on September 16, 2008 at 10:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)
UrGatorbait,
Sure I do not have any concrete facts about the price gouging (I do not know someone that works in gas field to make this inference), just observation and experience with human nature. I assure you that I have at least a decent understanding of economics, and that I would lack common sense or as you say make me a simpleton to take some arrogant bombast from someone that might have a hidden agenda as fact. Sir, you may dupe others, yet I feel that it is wise to at least remain skeptical. So it's pure economics and not price gouging, whatever. I would almost guarantee if a state official didn't make the proclamation on price gouging, I would bet that we would be seeing 6 dollar a gallon gas rather than 3.99, too bad you will have to settle for the Bahamas rather the South of France for one of your retirement vacations because of this.
Posted by jblakeslee on September 16, 2008 at 10:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Here's the problem I have with all of this (not that anyone cares)......On Thursday/Friday when gas FUTURES started going up upon news of IKE, all the companies raised their prices to cover the cost of FUTURE gasoline purchases....that makes sense to me and I have no problem with it......BUT:
Yesterday Gasoline Futures DROPPED about 17 cents a gallon, and as of this moring they are down another 7 cents....None of the companies who were so quick to raise prices when futures went up are being very quick about bringing them down now that futures are dropping. In addition to that, if the companes had a decent stock in the tanks they may not have even purchased gas at the increased futures price and now they are charging for it anyway.....even though their next purchase will be at a lower price.......
For the most part it is not the stations that are doing this, it is the company supplying gas to the stations....
I agree with everyone who spoke about supply and demand.....if we use less, the price will go down.
Posted by icbmman on September 16, 2008 at 10:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)
<<Posted by zekemire on September 16, 2008 at 8:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Here is a question to be answered logically! The free market normally works amazingly! However in times of natural disasters or other emergencies there are always individuals and some organizations trying to reap a windfall from others misfortune! If it is price gouging for Lowes or Home Depot to charge $40 for a normally priced at $20 sheet of plywood, then it is price gouging for gas wholesalers to charge exhorbitantly higher prices for ga when the actual price of oil is stable or even going down! PERIOD! All the liberals and democrats keep sayign the oil companies are reaping winfall profits from the price of oil, but, those people are ignorant! If the percentage of profit remains virtually the same, THAT IS NO WINDFALL! In this case there is a windfall because the base price of oil has actually gone down significantly, and, the wholesalers have arbitrarily raised the price to the gas staions! When a wholesaler calls a station and tells them to raise their price 50 cents overnight, that is criminal and needs to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law!! Our Attorney General needs to go after all these wholesalers whether they are in SC, GA, or, any other state! If a gas station has added more than their price has increased, they must be prosecuted, and put in jail, not just slapped on the hand with a frivilous fine!!>>
Zekemire, you have managed to post comments that make the most sense on this thread. Every single point you made is exactly correct.
There is a significant problem with price gouging when the price of oil is down to $92/barrel, but yet we see massive increases in prices for gasoline. Honestly, if the price of oil is down, EVEN with supposed disruptions in supply because of Ike, the damn price per gallon should be closer to $2.00-3.00! Indeed, the wholesalers are the ones that should be prosecuted with price gouging and taking in windfall profits.
If some of you did some more research, you'll find that the Carolinas were the only two states that had wholesalers freaking out and jacking up the prices. Other states such as GA, FL, and AL immediately put a freeze on gas prices while our state didn't do anything until after the fact. Up here in Cola, gas is $4.29/gallon, but in Jacksonville, FL, the price is still $3.29/gallon. For the first time, gas is higher in this state than FL. Our state government DEFINES inept and incompetent.
Posted by Missing_Home on September 16, 2008 at 11:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey Guys, I'm actually in Houston working this week.
You are lucky to find gas here at all, If you do it is like 1974 all over again, gas lines stretching for blocks.
I had to drive almost 50 miles west of houston last sunday to buy fuel, when i found it i had a 2 hour wait in line that stretched across the street and down the offramp to interstate 10.
Posted by xdrfox on September 16, 2008 at 11:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The INTERSTATE 95 Southern end that I saw rivals 3rd world countries, with earthquake size cracks that run many 10's of feet in length, try riding a motor cycle on this, most dangerous. LIKE PLAYING WACKAMOLE...weaving and dodging, who has time to pay attention to other traffic ! Many pot holes of danger of a 2 wheeled vehicles..."Where is your tax from gas going to repair and keep major through fairs going" ? I think in no way no one should try to navigate on a motorcycle at night, this INTERSTATE 95 I saw from 17 south is UNSAFE !
Posted by xdrfox on September 16, 2008 at 11:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
prices were at $100 a barrel this week and $97 now, the cost of TEXAS refineries were not servilely effected nor the rigs in the gulf. Why are not prices back to post $100 levels and gas at $2.25 as before the greed and lies...? $76. a barrel was this price $2.25 !
Posted by Missing_Home on September 16, 2008 at 11:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I don't know Xdrfox, I do know there is plenty of gas, but no power to pump - - - I was in Charleston during Hugo, At least we had some bright people that knew how to hook a generator up to a gas pump.
Here the terminals where the gas trucks fill up are without power, No one has thought about bringing in a big deisel generator to power the pumps/refineries yet??????????????
And they say South Carolina is last in the nation for education? At least we South Carolininas have common sense.
Posted by suec on September 16, 2008 at 11:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)
ha ha
Those of you who were laughing at me as I sat in line for gas,are now paying more!
ha ha
I do feel bad for the truckers, taxi drivers, repairmen, etc. but not for those of you who insinuated taht the rest of us were idiots and chicken littles.
Posted by xdrfox on September 16, 2008 at 12:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)
all them that bought oil futures for months, they are rich and have to make a profit, even if the prices fell, and they messed up..taking care of each other, oil and freinds...
Posted by UrGatorbait on September 16, 2008 at 12:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Coldbeer..blame it on Disco..LMAO!!
VMI...inelasticity...Hmmmm..haven't heard that in awhile. Is gas a need? Yes and no. Is the supply elastic(decreased demand when the price of the goods rise) or is the demand inelastic?(Very resistant to price changing; i.e. demanding more gas even though the price went up) or is demand elastic?(not very resistant to price changing) I would say in the American consumer is proving to be very inelastic in it's thirst for fuel. Economics, the true voodoo science. So no, at times I have no clue but I know when people are whining.
Depends on your perspective and individual needs. Are there other alternatives to gasoline out there? You do have a choice VMI, purchase it or not. Use E85 or not. Take the bus, car pool, ride a bike or telecommute. Hey, how about a taxi? Use Diesel or not, use CNG or not...so the inelasticity argument is kinda moot IMO when you do have choices. We aren't operating or living in absolutes here like you inelasticity argument implies. So if you are wholly dependent on gas, and gas alone for your transportation, than yes, it's inelastic.
This hike in prices might spur a change amongst the consumer for more demanding more choices, such as a greater number of CNG, and electric powered vehicles. Then we can go elastic and have...choice. Oooooo. :P
Oh yeah the dollar is rising, the price of oil is pegged to the dollar further driving down crude oil prices. When the refining gets back on line, I would expect prices to drop.
That would help kill demand for the production of alternative sources of energy and impede the demand for production of CNG/electric powered vehicles. Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles are about 20 years out but are being touted by the idiot in the White House as THE solution. It's a multi pronged solution. So yes hope for gas to be cheaper and when the next crisis hits we can all point our fingers at the gubmint or the oil or the car manufacturers instead of at ourselves.
Crankyyankee, I lived in England for 10 years in the 80s/90s when gas was $6+ dollars a gallon. It was never an issue and you adjusted your lifestyle accordingly.. Good observations.
Yes I agree that game last night was good. The usual departure from the usual NFL snore fest.
Actually guidedbystewart, I vacation in Florida or right here in the southeast. I'm not rich by any stretch of the imagination but if you pay, I'll gladly take a trip to the Bahamas. Pssst...your envy is showing.
Posted by Missing_Home on September 16, 2008 at 1:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hi Oristo,
Ike was definently no Hugo, but still bad.
Driving here is terrible right now, Imagine,
Ashley phosphate rd. 10 x as long and 4 x as congested.
NOW, Take away all of the traffic signals.
That is what it is like here now, No traffic lights (no Power) and lots of traffic.
Posted by Missing_Home on September 16, 2008 at 1:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
P.S.
It took me over an hour to drive 5 miles down Westhiemer yesterday.
Posted by Missing_Home on September 16, 2008 at 1:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)
this hike will not last long,
it will be short lived.
Posted by Rebel_Yell on September 16, 2008 at 1:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
suec: I am glad you sat in line to get gas. Now go jump off a bridge.
Posted by VMI90 on September 16, 2008 at 1:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Mouth...anything that Dick Morris says I will take with a grain of salt. He is on the Faux News payroll- give me a break- Hannity the moron has him on every week. How about a logical argument instead of hurling names and insults.
I also did not know that Dick Morris was an economist- maybe he should let the people that are really qualified to comment on what his policies will do economically speak.
Posted by VMI90 on September 16, 2008 at 1:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"this hike will not last long,
it will be short lived."
They said that after Katrina too.
I hope that you are right, however.
Posted by VMI90 on September 16, 2008 at 1:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Gator- we will have to agree to disagree. I won't convince you, and you certainly won't convince me. I completely disagree with you concerning viable alternatives for me to use for oil. Bicycle? Yeah, ride 20 miles each way. Not feasible. Taxi? Costs more than gas! Bus routes? No route close to my work. No suitable substitute.
Have a great day however. You seem to at least be civil, unlike some of the neanderthals that post here.
Posted by suec on September 16, 2008 at 2:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Rebel yell, sour grapes over paying $5 a gallon? I filled up 2 trucks and a car at $3.47 a gallon. I'm doing a happy dance.
Posted by willie08 on September 16, 2008 at 2:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Is that guy bustin' a sag?
Ha Ha Ha!!
Posted by im4usc on September 16, 2008 at 3:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I saw a well-dressed 50-ish woman riding a moped this morning, obviously on her way to work.
I laughed at first, thinking how silly she looked---then it hit me that that could be me before long.
Posted by suec on September 16, 2008 at 3:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I still think "DUI License suspended" every time I see an adult riding a moped.
Habit
Posted by im4usc on September 16, 2008 at 4:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Posted by ColdBeer on September 16, 2008 at 3:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I saw a middle aged woman in a very nice ankle length dress riding a moped yesterday. It looked funny, but yea... she was saving money.
Besides saving money, some of those new mopeds look pretty nice; kind of sporty and colorful.
OMG, what am I saying?
Posted by Carolina_Politics on September 16, 2008 at 9:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)
There was a report on WBT 1100AM this morning that there was a gas station in North Carolina charging $7.32 on Saturday. I’m sure that most of the gas stations were charging honestly, but I still believe that the wholesalers supplying them were unreasonably raising their costs to the stations.
http://www.carolinapoliticsonline.com/20...
Posted by rollo on September 16, 2008 at 10:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
What a bunch of hooie!
If you don't like the price, don't buy from that merchant. Move on down the road and shop for a better price! Going crying to "daddy McMaster" only puts yourself into "helpless victim mode".
Posted by JLWDALFAN on September 17, 2008 at 12:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
THE STATION I USUALLY GO TO ON RIVERS AVE ONLY HAD THE NUMBER 4 UP AND ALL OTHER NUMBERS NOT PUT UP. THEY HAD IT PRICED AT $4 PER GALLON. 1/2 MILE DOWN THE ROAD THE SHELL STATION HAD THEIR GAS AT $3.68 PER GAL. I WILL NEVER GO BACK TO THIS STATION. EVER!!! IF THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE SUPPLY, THEN PUT A LIMIT PER DAY ON THE GAS, BUT HOW DARE YOU GOUGE CUSTOMERS. ALSO, LOOK AT ALL THE PEOPLE WHO RAN OUT TO FILL UP WHEN THE RUMORS HIT, YOU FELL RIGHT INTO THEIR TRAP. HA HA