Posted by jca on May 16, 2008 at 7:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

well at least this baby appeared to be restrained in a car seat.

how many more stupid teens have to die before they stop giving the licenses

this one clearly was caused by excessive speed. you have to be driving very fast to flip. and no seatbelt

whats wrong with these parents not teaching their kids

these parents may lose their teenage child and possibly their baby

Posted by Girleygirl on May 16, 2008 at 8:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

My condelences sent to the family and friends of the children.

Posted by prosperous_hb on May 16, 2008 at 8:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This is sad. I don't think it's just the teens...it's adults that do the same thing.

Posted by jca on May 16, 2008 at 8:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

two teens in less than a week killed by their own negligence

Posted by ColdBeer on May 16, 2008 at 8:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Actually a car can flip at a very low speed if your drive off of the road in to a drainage ditch. There is no mention as to proper restraints being used for the baby. There is no mention of speed. There is no mention of the intelligence of the driver. The cause for her losing control of her car is not mentioned. This week's articles have included more deaths of older drivers than of teen drivers. There sure are a lot of assumptions being made here.

A seat belt most likely would have saved her life in this accident. That is about the only conclusion I can draw from the facts presented in the article.

I could speculate that she had a medical seizure that caused the wreck, I could speculate that a drunk almost hit her head on and she was forced to drive off of the road. I won't though. There isn't enough information given for me to jump to those conclusions.

My condolences to the family and friends of Odessa Banks.

Posted by upstate2lowcountry on May 16, 2008 at 10:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

My, my, archdude... we are quick to judge this morning, aren't we? Perhaps those of us who would like the driving age raised are just taking a conservative position... it isn't just the teenagers that are in danger if they aren't ready yet. Funny, I have a great job, normal social life, and loads of compassion and I still see the need to at least look at the option of revising the current driving laws. I'm only 25 so I can clearly remember the frequent lapses in judgement I had in my teen years... and I was one of the "good kids". And the issue had nothing to do with ethnicity, thanks.

Posted by ColdBeer on May 16, 2008 at 11:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

One problem I can see with raising the driving age is that it would prevent many teens from being able to get a job due to lack of transportation. Not having a job means they'll have a lot of idle time on their hands. I can't see that being a good thing.

I have no real problem with the age limits where they are. My 19 daughter handled them fine when she was just 15... WITH proper training and supervision on our (the parents) part.

Posted by jca on May 16, 2008 at 12:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

archdude
why dont you get a life and a job. the driving laws on teens are too lax plan and simple

teens are too stupid at 15 too drive. look at the number of accidents they cause. i live across the highway from a high school. i see these dangerous manaics on the road every single day.4 out of 5 school days a week theres a crash. 6 kids from that school have died. who is to blame. the kids are. the oldest was 18 and shot straight out ignoring the red light and ran straight under a big rig. my husband saw it called the cops and pulled into the exxon as he was in the turning lane opposite side of the highway. no it wasnt on here. the boy killed himself and two other kids.
kids in another car who were following that car and witnesses on the scene said the kids were leaning out of the cat cussing at drivers who stopped for the light we he upped and drove down the wrong side of the road turned right and bang dead.

the driving age needs to be raised. to at least 18 most kids arent ready at 15. they arent mature enough to understand the responsibility or how dangerous it is. i have worked with teens who couldnt wait to get their permits nad drive. they thought it was fun and every one has to do it. one kid said the faster the better. he was killed 6 weeks after he got his license.

i did nothing to be attacked. this kid in this story flipped the car and was ejected speed was a factor get over it.

arch get off of here if you dont like that people arent stuck up stupid cu nts like you.

its an opiniion place accept it or leave

Posted by jca on May 16, 2008 at 12:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

race has nothing to do with this arch stop trying to start trouble

Posted by ColdBeer on May 16, 2008 at 12:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

jca, I learned a long time ago that anytime your make generalizations about a group of people, be it based on age, race or whatever, you're usually just making a fool out of yourself.

Evidently you had some learning issues when you were a teen. I didn't have those problems. Neither have my kids. None of us were "stupid" at 15. My kids, as a matter of fact, always amazed me with their intelligence and thoughtfulness. They weren’t perfect, but they certainly weren't "stupid". Hell, they even knew how to use proper grammar and how to spell words correctly. You’d be amazed at the percentage of adults that can’t do that. Oops, maybe you wouldn’t. My bad.

Kids... I'll tell ya... amazing things, they are.

Posted by Weeeee on May 16, 2008 at 1:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

A friend of mine had low air pressure in a tire and flipped his car after that tire went into a rut created by a tractor trailer. He lived. Car was totaled. Speed wasn't a factor because he was only driving maybe 25 in the subdivision.

Cheers. :-)

edud etuc saw taht

Posted by Girleygirl on May 16, 2008 at 1:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

oohhhhhhhhhhhhh Archdude-

"hctib bmud diputs uoy yad doog"

Be nice no matter how bad someone pisses you off. :>)

Posted by jca on May 16, 2008 at 3:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

live across from a high school teens arent book stupid their common sense stupid, they are too busy texting though not mentioned here or playing around ALSO NOT MENTIONED HERE.

many teen drivers believe the other drivers should move out of their way.

i dont not have issues and i am mad that you losers who dont know me could say that get a life you cows

i voiced my opinion and was attacked this is an opinion forum get over it this is my opinion teenagers shouldnt drive. not until they have had defensive driving classes and proper driving lessons from a state accredited driving school. people who know how to teach. too many adults cant drive and shouldnt drive either.

for the record im not a licensed driver and thats by choice. i do drive i have a permit. i drive with my husband on non busy roads. i can drive and drive very well i follow all posted speed limits and other driving laws i dont cut people off nor do i pass to close. i respect the roads and the other drivers. because i wasnt a teen driver. teenagers not all of them but most think their invincible and that others will get out of their way. my husband and i have been tailgated by a few and then followed and threatened. i speak from facts despite what you judgemental freaks say.

i have been through alot. set on fire is only one small piece. i do not hate anyone. i just dislike certain types of people. specially the types that hurt me. get over it it is an opinion forum

Posted by ColdBeer on May 16, 2008 at 3:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I was going to say, jca sure seems like she's often the target of others aggression.

Things that make you go hmmmmmm...

jca, when your opinion includes calling people "stupid" and making assumptions as if they are facts that only you are privy too, you can pretty much expect to have others respond.

Now, knowing that you are not even a licensed driver, your opinion carries much less weight. It's about the equivalent of me critiquing a spanish language instructor and the only spanish I know is what's on the menu at Taco Bell.

Posted by Girleygirl on May 16, 2008 at 4:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yall are so funny.....I view jane in that same category...looney....all hispanic men are out to get her, kill her, rape her, spit on her, grope her, call her nasty names. She has had so many bad experience with hispanics I think she's a magnet.
She called herself olive and said her complexion was green.....everytime I read her post I am left feeling confused and empty....
Can you say twilight zone?

Posted by jca on May 16, 2008 at 4:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

arch your the one with issues you bully and attack people you dont know and will never know get a life.

i choose to not drive. my husband drives for us. i have health issues that make it so i may not be the best of drivers. i have had a heart attack. i would rather not risk being behind the wheel and my heart problem flairs.

i choose to not put other drivers at risk. unlike some people out there

as far as my mental state i am perfectly sane and not the cause of my problems. these thing dont happen daily or weekly in fact their rare and im not even in the car half the time. this board was for discussing the article not attacking the posters get a life.
and grow up

attackin g me to make your own pathetic lives have more meaning how pathetic you have no self esteem so you attack on here. grow up your supposed to be adults act like it

need more people like me who choose to not drive, might be a few less stupid drivers out there.

Posted by MooMoo on May 16, 2008 at 5:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

hi ho hi ho

it's off the deep end we go (jca)

she'll make stuff up

no matter what

hi ho hi ho