Immigration plan triggers new clash
Sanford, McConnell differ on enforceability
The Post and Courier
Friday, May 2, 2008
COLUMBIA — Two of the state's most powerful politicians clashed Thursday over a Senate plan to levy heavy fines against businesses that hire illegal immigrants. Senate President Pro Tem Glenn McConnell and Gov. Mark Sanford are pitted against one another in the latest round of the immigration reform fight, which has devolved into a Statehouse logjam in recent weeks. Sanford argues that the measure would be unenforceable. McConnell says it is. "The governor wants to hide in the bushes and take potshots at the Senate instead of stepping onto the battlefield," McConnell, R-Charleston, said while defending the bill given final approval Thursday in the Senate. Sanford, also a Republican, said his office had been in conversations with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security about the Senate's plan. "It's a stuck hog that squeals, as they say in the country," Sanford said. "We must have struck a chord." The Senate agreed to give employers three options for checking the legal status of workers as part of a comprehensive immigration reform bill. Employers would be required to check a worker's legal status with a state driver's license, the federal government's free, online system E-Verify or a new paper form called S.C. Verify that would be monitored and enforced by one of the governor's Cabinet agencies. Employers who don't follow the rules would be fined as much as $10,000 for every illegal immigrant on their payroll. Other provisions could lead to felony charges and jail time. Sanford said federal law pre-empts the state from levying the fines designed by the Senate. A federal law passed in 1986 would allow the state to suspend or revoke business and professional licenses, but business licenses aren't a requirement in all parts of the state. McConnell said Senate attorneys believe the law is enforceable. He also said that one of the bill's biggest strengths is that he believes it empowers the public; a provision in it allows the residents to report evidence of illegal workers. The governor said the state should mandate that its business use E-Verify, a relatively new system offered by the Homeland Security that checks the validity of Social Security numbers. Sanford also noted that he believes there is a correlation between the state's rising Hispanic population and the tide of illegal immigrations. Many argue that South Carolina must pass reform or become a haven for illegal immigrants fleeing other states. Across the nation, more than 1,100 bills were introduced in the first three months of 2008 in 44 states, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Last year, 240 were put into law. The Senate's plan — which bypassed a compromise plan stalled in negotiations — now goes to the House. Speaker Bobby Harrell, R-Charleston, said the House members will have to become familiar with the complexities of the Senate's plan over the weekend. "We've heard mixed reviews on whether it is a strong bill that they have passed," Harrell said. Rep. Jim Harrison, a Columbia Republican who has been leading the House negotiations on the immigration issue, said he can't predict how the House will respond to the bill when it hits the floor next week. "The body will vote," he said. Additionally, the Governor's Office questioned how the Senate was able to so seamlessly tie together a compromise on an issue that had stakeholders so divided. McConnell said various elements of the plan won over supporters, including some who said they'd vote for it just because it was so tough they thought it would die in the House. "If the governor creates gridlock on this, that will make some happy folks in the Statehouse who wanted nothing at all, and the influx of illegal aliens will continue," McConnell said. The business community also was trying to sort out the proposals Thursday, although many business advocates have consistently argued that the issue is a federal one. Mary Graham, senior vice president of public policy for the Charleston Metro Chamber of Commerce, said the chamber has urged the Legislature to use its power and influence to push for federal reform, and for state legislation that prohibits local governments from passing piecemeal ordinances. Without federal legislation there is a potential for 50 different laws in 50 different states, driving up administrative expenses for area businesses. "We don't believe this needs to be solved state by state," Graham said.
Peter Hull contributed to this report. Reach Yvonne Wenger at ywenger@postandcourier.com or 803-799-9051.
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Posted by NativeSon on May 2, 2008 at 5:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)
10 thousand fine is too easy on those treasonist dogs. Prison and confiscation of their businesses should be the minimum for knowingly hiring illegals.
Posted by JohnS on May 2, 2008 at 7:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The SC Chamber of Commerce as Sanford in their pocket. The SC Employment Security Commision is Johnny on the spot with most issues. Adding a few more workers to help enforce this would not be a problem.
Posted by crankyyankee on May 2, 2008 at 9:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I've lost what little respect I had for the Chamber of Commerce. Go stand in the coner with the NAACP you idiots!
Posted by southerner on May 2, 2008 at 10:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
" WE THE PEOPLE"
If we want them to pass a law to get rid of the illegal aliens, then
"WE THE PEOPLE MUST ACT"
CALL, WRITE OR GO TO THE STATE HOUSE let your voice be heard, send email to LOWES, HOME DEPOT and telephone companies.
If they don't act, then vote them out of office. What has become of the American people, we are wimps,to much other stuff to worry about (football games on tv, it doesn't have anything to do with me) get involved, do something constructive before it is too late.
Posted by zoomru on May 2, 2008 at 10:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Southerner.....
Bullseye!!!
If we don't act...we are just witnessing a death of a nation. I wish I had time to write more!
Posted by bigwhip on May 2, 2008 at 2:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The Chamber....Summey & Riley are fighting over them like two scary cats when they ought to be banned to Bonneau Beach. Mary Graham, I have a question for you......where did you ever get the idea that the Feds would or could enforce anything that is not approved by the Justice Department? If you are looking for relief from the Feds you have been living under a rock.
Posted by berthelot on May 3, 2008 at 9:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Let me play devil's advocate.
These illegal immigrants all have fake social security numbers. They give these numbers to their employers on a W-9 form just like everyone else. The employer then pays withholding taxes, Social Security withholding and Medicare directly to the government. The government then puts all of this money into what is known as an "Earnings suspense file"... basically a bank account that holds all of the money that was paid in but either was not owed or cannot be paid back legitimately.
The Government Accounting Office (see report below) says that this account gains roughly 5 to 7 BILLION dollars per year, with the 2005 total at 519 BILLION dollars. The Government uses this as a savings account at its discretion. They borrow from it, loan it out, write notes on it, everything.
Furthermore, the GAO report stated that a disproportionate number of unmatched earnings reports come from industries such as "eating and drinking establishments and construction," and that, "a small portion of employers also account for a disproportionate number of ESF reports."
Add that to the resale taxes on everything they consume and I would say that these illegal immigrants have almost paid for the war in Iraq (+- $ 516 BIL). The only thing they don't have is the luxury of itemized deductions, or social security benefits at retirement, or Medicare benefits. Oh well.
That being said, something has to be done about the problem because unlike the immigration of the past the Hispanics don't want to become American, they want America to become Hispanic. That cannot and will not happen.
Don't be too discouraged if they don't kick all of them out, we are making a pretty good windfall off of their sweat. That is why the issue will get tossed around by politicians on election years but never really solved.
Article:
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/20...
GAO Report:
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d06458t.pdf...