Investor's ordeal goes on
Ex-employee details price he paid for trusting economist
The Post and Courier
Thursday, June 26, 2008
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John Friedrich, who now works at M. Dumas and Sons, has had to adjust to the losses he's faced as a result of Al Parish's fraudulent money management.
The Post and Courier
John Friedrich
John Friedrich remembers the night perfectly. It was mid-2007, about two months after his gastric-bypass surgery had been canceled. He should have been losing some of the weight that he carried for decades. Instead, he was lying in bed, struggling with new burdens. His inheritance was gone. His job had vanished. Al Parish, his boss, financial adviser and longtime friend, was in the Charleston County jail, deemed a "flight risk" by a federal judge. Friedrich's heart quickened to a blur and finally over-revved. "I called my friends; I told them where my will was," Friedrich recalled. "I thought, 'This is it.' " Friedrich, 54, survived a slight heart attack that night. He wasn't the only one losing sleep. Some 600 people, businesses and nonprofits watched about $80 million of their wealth disappear in April 2007, when the Securities and Exchange Commission uncovered a massive fraud during its audit of the "informal pools" of investments run by Parish. The former Charleston Southern University economist pleaded guilty in October under a deal with authorities that reduced the number of fraud charges to three from 11, including one state charge. In a Meeting Street courthouse today, federal prosecutors will ask a judge to banish the 50-year-old Parish to prison for almost 31 years. Investors such as Friedrich will probably recover only 10 cents on each dollar, once the process of collecting and liquidating Parish's empire is completed. Their biggest torment is the constant mental questioning: Why didn't I check him out better? Why did I invest so much? Why didn't I see it coming? Everything about Parish was large: his physique, his personality, his intellect, his generosity, his sense of fashion and, eventually, his crime. "He was very charismatic," Friedrich said. "He made people just believe." Friedrich's decision to invest was not as rash as some. To him, Parish was more than the "Economan," more than a college professor with a loud wardrobe who drove a purple Jaguar. Friedrich knew Parish had plenty of money. For many years, he had advised Parish on how to spend it. As a salesman at Berlin's men's clothing store, Friedrich helped Parish pick out $50,000 to $100,000 worth of merchandise every year. Later, Parish hired him to run A.J. Davis, the menswear store that Parish bought in 2003. The pair would go on buying trips to New York, zipping up on a chartered jet, sleeping in Parish's swanky three-bedroom timeshare at 68th Street and Broadway, dropping cash as if it were burning their hands. "He just always had money," Friedrich said. "Any time the store needed money, he put it in. ... He spent a fortune on it. There were tin roofs, flat-screen TVs, you name it." It never occurred to Friedrich that the money might not have been Parish's — that the money may, in fact, have been his own: the 401(k) retirement plan proceeds he turned over to his new boss at A.J Davis, the tens of thousands of dollars left to him by his father. Parish's charity and benevolence impressed as much as his apparent wealth. He gave his mind, and later his money, freely. While at the College of Charleston, Parish founded a math lab to tutor his classmates. He became a regular on the local speaking circuit, and helped the Charleston Metro Chamber of Commerce organize its economic forecasts while juggling a full-time teaching job at CSU. And when he began investing for others, Parish charged a relatively small fee. Parish's attorney, Andy Savage, said Parish was never motivated by greed, "but rather by a vain attempt to be recognized for his financial acumen." Parish's friends and family have stretched to comprehend the scope of pilfering and lies that Parish admitted to in May when he pleaded guilty. "He is a nurturer," Parish's cousin Marguerite Baldwin Anderson wrote in a recent letter to the court. "It is difficult to reconcile the boy and man I have known with the accused I see in court." Friedrich still can't understand it. Like most of Parish's victims, he has landed on his feet, sort of. He is back in his element, outfitting men at a King Street clothing shop. He still owns the Goose Creek home that Parish advised him to buy. Friedrich's heart is still in bad shape after that dark night last year when he thought he was a goner. He still can't afford the gastric-bypass surgery that his former insurance plan would have covered, and he still struggles with his weight. Early this year, Friedrich paid $8,000 to have his knees rebuilt. And with his nest egg cracked open, Friedrich no longer can picture a day when he won't have to be on his feet for hours, kneeling to pin a cuff, climbing a ladder to stack shirts. "I've been in retail my whole life and I've been totally screwed at age 50," Friedrich said. "I just trusted the man with my life." For Friedrich, like many of Parish's investors, the red flags stand out clearly when he looks back. In the months before investigators dropped the net on his employer, Friedrich said, Parish's stress level rocketed. He would hand out checks and tell people to hold onto them for a few weeks before cashing them. Friedrich himself struggled to withdraw funds in the weeks before the SEC closed in. "I must have asked him for that money 10 times," Friedrich said. "His office was two doors away and I would say, 'Do you want me to come and pick it up?' and he'd say, 'No, I'll bring it over.' " Friedrich has found a new job, but finding forgiveness for Parish has proved elusive. It might be different if he had not eaten dinner at least once a week with Parish's wife and four pre-teen children, if Parish had not accepted another $20,000 check from Friedrich days before the scheme fell apart, if Parish had not bought $8,000 worth of merchandise just before he stopped paying the health insurance bills for Friedrich and his other employees. "I would basically ask him why he did it to me," Friedrich said. "Some investors in the Midwest is one thing, but I was around him all the time. … I don't understand how he could face me in those last few months and take more money from me." In the days after Parish was charged with 10 counts of federal fraud, investigators called on Friedrich to help catalog the expansive wardrobe in Parish's Summerville home. About a quarter of the clothes still had the tags on them. "We're talking $3,000 suits," Friedrich said. Court officials expect about 100 of Parish's victims to file into the courtroom and a specially prepared "overflow room" today to witness the economist's sentencing. Friedrich won't be among them. He will be six blocks up the peninsula, folding shirts and fitting clients for new clothes.
Reach Kyle Stock at 937-5763 or kstock@postandcourier.com. Reach Schuyler Kropf at 937-5551 or skropf@postandcourier.com.
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Posted by chucktonian on June 26, 2008 at 1:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)
exhibit A: never do short-term investing in these sort of schemes.
had people used their noodle and put their money into mutual funds with a long track record, good real estate, a well-diversified portfolio, they wouldn't have gotten hosed.
guys like parish feed off people's greed
Posted by Thomas1776 on June 26, 2008 at 2:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I think Al Parrish should be put to death in the electric chair.
Posted by stand828 on June 26, 2008 at 5:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I feel sorry for these people, but come on, they share the blame. Why would anybody put so much money in Parish's control?
Posted by SuzieQJones on June 26, 2008 at 5:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It is a shame that Mr. Parish did so much damage to so many people, this seems to be never ending. What he did to Mr. Friedrich and other employees is just plain evil. Wonder how long Yolanda Yoder will stay with him. She was a spoiled, coddled wife (nanny, housekeeper, lots of money). She will stay as long as there is money someplace. Mr. Savage is asking for a shorter sentence due to Mr. Parish's health; his victims are serving life sentences and so should he.
Posted by moonpie on June 26, 2008 at 6:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"Friedrich knew Parish had plenty of money" yeah and it turns out it was yours and everyone else's money not his. Stories like this prove he should die in prison. He ruined peoples retirements and they now will have to work their remaining of their years.
I still can't believe CSU fell for this guy? People on the street, and whoever said are greedy was right! But a college and the president of the college really?? And ole Dr Hunter got off scott free?! He's still getting his money!
Posted by granny2 on June 26, 2008 at 6:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Give him life behind a push lawn mower, cutting the road sides. Miss Yolanda should get life raking the roadsides behind him.
Posted by wpc3iop on June 26, 2008 at 6:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)
His high-priced crooked lawyer will get him put in some sort of "medical" facility...That's OK Al, "Big Bubba" can still get to you there...have fun, you sorry scumbag!
Posted by watchfuleye on June 26, 2008 at 7:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Al did the crime now Al must do the time. Time in prison will never repay the lives he ripped apart nor wash away the disgust that the investors and the public have for him now, but it might, just might keep him from hurting anyone else, but stranger things have happened. Notice how the judge allowed Parish to keep investor's money to pay his lawyer. Cut out Al's tongue and sever his hands at the wrist and perhaps this will stop him from further fraud.
Posted by Riptide on June 26, 2008 at 7:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Every investment carries a risk, but you can reduce your exposure to risk by diversifying your portfolio into stock and bond index funds, money market funds, real estate, gold and silver. Never put all your eggs into one basket. The best time to invest was 20 years ago, the second best time to invest is now. Look for opportunities and solid buys with a potential of earnings in the future. Learn how the market works. In essence you’re a speculator because every investor looks for trends in the market. It’s the future of your investment that will pay off for you and your family.
This guy Parish is not the first nor will he be the last. The best manager for your money is you not someone else. This should be taught in every high school. How many rich people went broke because they left their money affairs to some one else. Managing money and investments is not easy but it’s a lot easier than starting over when you’re in your fifties.
Posted by lillycollette on June 26, 2008 at 8:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Some harsh sentiments here for the crime of fraud.
Posted by singleroni on June 26, 2008 at 8:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)
i still don't believe he will be in jail over 60 days, savage will get him home release or something.
Posted by grannyofsix on June 26, 2008 at 8:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
ahh the heartships of the rich
Posted by Tulane75 on June 26, 2008 at 9:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"I think Al Parrish should be put to death in the electric chair."
The U.S. Supreme Court said yesterday that you can't do it! But why let a little thing like the law interfere with your lynch mob? Then, wpc3iop's libelous and ignorant comment about Parish's lawyer suggests an intolerance of the right to counsel.
Do they really believe this or are they just expressing frustration?
I think Parish will get a severe sentence just the same.
Posted by Siri on June 26, 2008 at 9:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Harsh sentiments are called for. I wouldn't call his CRIMES fraud I would call it theft or robbery. Al Parish STOLE these people's money as sure as if he had robbed their safe or picked their pockets.
Posted by MsPiggy on June 26, 2008 at 9:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Oh my gosh.....
This story breaks my heart!! Granted, like Stand828 stated, some of the blame rests in the investor---because trusting that much money to one person is a little unwise.
We live in a world that is just too full of greed and power hungry people. I always said that you think you know a person---I mean REALLY know a person, and they do something so out of character and shocking.
What I can't stomach is Parish had dinner with this guy weekly, I mean he was pretty much a close family friend. Parish was stabbing him in the back and betraying him the whole time. I cannot imagine what that must feel like. I've been betrayed by people I trusted, but this has to be 20 X worse. Parish must not have a heart or a conscience. He was just a tool of the devil, as country as that may sound.
You know, I'm not pushing my beliefs on anyone here, but I think that when Parish dies and stands in judgement before God--he's going to have to answer to all the terrible things he's done on earth. All the wicked acts he's committed, all the lies he's told--all the hearts he's broken and all the tears he's made people cry.
I would hate to be him on that day. He would be without excuse, as well all would. As far as the electric chair comment by Thomas, haha....I think that death is the easy way out. He needs to know what he did was WRONG--he needs to hear the tearful testimony from all of his investors--he needs to sit in prison without his 8 grand suits and nothing but a tiny room. EVERYTHING should be stripped from him! Maybe they need to sell everything that belongs to him (Houses, clothes, cars, ect) and divide the money up and give it back to all these victims. Yeah buddy!! Robin Hood style. ;-)
Posted by ln1959 on June 26, 2008 at 9:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The guys in the Enron Case just got 20 to 30 years in jail. They should have lost there home, there bank accounts and the ones that did not killed them self, should have gotten life for what they did to those people and Parish should get the same.
Posted by Thomas1776 on June 26, 2008 at 9:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)
And where is the money coming from to pay Attorney Andy Savage?
Posted by Thomas1776 on June 26, 2008 at 9:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Parish is a flight risk. Better not delay starting his prison sentence. He's the type who will flee.
Posted by Thomas1776 on June 26, 2008 at 9:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Siri,
Those people worked long and hard all their lives for their money. And this slime bag duped them out of 10s of millions.
He is just as bad as a child rapist. He is a sicko. Can be expect he gets just 10 months? 12 months? Or even 36 months?
He deserves, in the least, to rot in prison for the rest of his life.
Posted by Thomas1776 on June 26, 2008 at 9:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)
ln1959,
Excellent point!
Posted by oldglory on June 26, 2008 at 9:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)
If Mr. Al Parish does not have to serve his sentence by worming out medically (as he initially did when charged and arrested, if you'll recall) and walking over his victims yet again, then there is no doubt that he deserves being Mr. Al PARIAH.
Those who think the feelings/judgments are overblown, does one have to violently kill someone to be deemed having taken a life? These victims aren't all wealthy people, and I suspect that most have given up their prior lives just to survive.
Do you wonder how Mr. Pariah's wife and children are surviving? Wasn't she being paid a very large monthly amount? Does she/has she ever worked? Will she maintain her earlier life style? Are her children still in private schools? She didn't do the crime, but she certainly benefited and still is benefiting from the victims money. How sad for the victims.
Oh well, too many 'wonders' here. . .
Posted by Girleygirl on June 26, 2008 at 9:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Give him his loud orange outfit and let him sit in jail. Just like the Manson case, I don't care about these peoples' health. They did not care what they were doing and had the time of their life, until they got caught, so let him live the rest of his life in jail.
Posted by nochasgirl on June 26, 2008 at 10:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)
He is a thief! And he was looking these people in the eye and smiling, knowing he was robbing them blind.
If it's too good to be true, IT IS!
His wife had to know what was going on, and she should be scrubbing floors somewhere.
Posted by DCartisan on June 26, 2008 at 10:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)
What time is his sentencing today?
Posted by diggerman on June 26, 2008 at 10:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Money buys deals also....his time won't fit the crime.
diggerman
Posted by Yeah_I_said_it on June 26, 2008 at 10:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
He was healthy when he was taking those people's money, now wasn't he? How convenient for him to all of a sudden become ill right around sentencing time. Take him to jail with the I.V. in his arm.
Posted by Floger76 on June 26, 2008 at 10:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Many are asking why these investors would put soooo much money with Parish, and want to put much of the blame on them.These people had reason to invest with him. They had friends that started out small, and were showing HUGE returns. There were many people that started out with a moderate investment, and ended up putting more and more with him as they were getting reports that showed great growth. I don't blame people that invest and loose (legally). That is not what happened here. These people were getting reports that showed them making $$$, while they were actually loosing. Try to imagine that you are getting a statement that showed your investment had doubled, and then you see on the news that you were broke. This guy was speaking at chamber meetings, Rotary's etc. Please see the entire picture before you put = blame on the investors. And no, I never invested with this looser.
Posted by SCPDBLUE on June 26, 2008 at 11:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Thomas1776, I hear you brother, How is fat boy paying for Savage? I wonder also OLDGLORY."Do you wonder how Mr. Pariah's wife and children are surviving? Wasn't she being paid a very large monthly amount? Does she/has she ever worked? Will she maintain her earlier life style? Are her children still in private schools? She didn't do the crime, but she certainly benefited and still is benefiting from the victims money. How sad for the victims".I say take her money ,send those snotty kids to Morning side,Alis Berney Middle and North Chas High and she can get a job at the JOKER,While fat boy becomes someones shower mate.Mr.Friedrich,I'am sorry to hear you are having trouble making ends meet,If you need a second job,I hear Buger King is hiring, WELCOME to the real world,the world of the real working man.Your loyalty to your Fuhrer was strong,plane trips to NY,Wining and dining. Well your Fuhrers goose is cooked and now you have to work like the rest of us. Good luck and join Jenny Creg.
Posted by SC_Leigh on June 26, 2008 at 11:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I would like to know as well how he is paying his lawyer? And I agree with a poster above, this is theft and robbery. The term fraud does not do this crime justice. I would also like to make a point that because some people are ignorant and careless with their investments and money does not give crooks like Parish the right to steal it.
Posted by SC_Leigh on June 26, 2008 at 11:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It is not the kids fault that their father is a dishonest, immoral criminal but I have to agree they should atttend public school and live modestly. Also, Friedrich was working retail, that isnt a cushy well paying job, give that poor man a break. He choose his friends and investments badly, but doesnt deserve to be broke at 50 yrs old. Also, no one wants to see that woman working at the Joker:)
Posted by grannyofsix on June 26, 2008 at 11:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)
btw my first comment was directed about parrish not the people he stole from . and i agree he wasnt sick when he was taking the money, and getting richer by the second . iam glad i dont have that kind of money to invest hell i lose money everytime i go to the gas station
Posted by itsmeagain on June 26, 2008 at 11:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Thomas1776... I think he is a scumbag, but maybe comparing him to a child rapist is a bit extreme. I hate what he did, but raping a child is much worse.
Posted by candygirl on June 26, 2008 at 12:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Parish did to these people what they allowed him to do,they didn't do the reseach on him before investing ,all they saw was $$$$ signs. They lost,get over it and move on.
Posted by Floger76 on June 26, 2008 at 12:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
candygirl - Short of a full SEC investigation, what research would you have suggested to these investors. Look how long it took the powers that be to figure out what happened once they knew there was a problem. It was a complete accident that he was caught at all. This guy had the trust of the P & C, all the local news stations, and C.S.U. Don't be so smug to believe that this could never happen to you, or that you are too smart for this.
Posted by watchfuleye on June 26, 2008 at 12:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
someone asked "who is paying his lawyer" The answer is his investors are, the judge let him keep money for his defense attorney
Posted by Thomas1776 on June 26, 2008 at 12:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
If you have never had anyone you trusted steal from you before, you have no idea how it feels. They rob you of a lot more than money or property value. They also rob you of much much more.
Illusion is the dust the devil throws in the eyes of the deceived. Parish is an evil man.
Posted by Thomas1776 on June 26, 2008 at 1:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
So in other words, Parish's victims are paying for Andy Savage. And we all know he is one of the most expensive lawyers in the State of SC.
Savage should be reprimanded for other things I will not go into.
Posted by Two_Sheds on June 26, 2008 at 1:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
So, am I to understand that Big Al spent $50-100K a year on that Godawfully tacky wardrobe of his, at others' expense? $3k for a suit? I'm surprised Berlin's could outfit him--I figured he'd have to go to Omar the Tentmaker!
Posted by Two_Sheds on June 26, 2008 at 1:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Why has the P&C removed the comments from the "sentencing" story? They're no longer there.
Posted by Yeah_I_said_it on June 26, 2008 at 1:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Two_Sheds,
I was just about to ask the same thing. At any rate, my favorite quote from that article is this one "I ask you judge to squash the big, fat spider." And I pray that the judge does just that.
Posted by itsmeagain on June 26, 2008 at 2:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Thomas1776... I have had people close to me steal before (however, not nearly as much as these investors) and I know that it sucks. But I still don't agree with the comment about him being like a child rapist. I agree that he is a very evil man but the man I read about yesterday who raped his stepdaughter, is much worse.
Posted by scnative4ever on June 26, 2008 at 2:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)
you get what your greed gets you. i don't feel sorry for any one, al parish or his victims. everyone that invested with him was looking for the get rich quick. well guess what, you screwed up by letting your love of money make foolish decisions. it's just like all these people that bought houses they couldn't afford and took out interest only loans. if you are loosing your house you get what you deserve. but it work out great for me. i just bought my second house from one of you idiots out there. thanks numb nut, whoever you are.
Posted by Neponset on June 26, 2008 at 3:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Looks like they have eliminated the comments feature from the article on Al's sentencing - I wonder what the problem is.
Posted by watchfuleye on June 26, 2008 at 4:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Take note: I would "steal" or "defraud" people out of $80 million dollars in a heart beat if I knew I was only going to go for jail 4 or 5 years; let's see.... ummm... that's $20 million dollars a year, beats what I'm doing now, where do I sign up AL?
Jail Sentences must "deter" others from repeating the same crime, that is what sentences are for and to punish to keep the same offender from repeating the same crime
Posted by watchfuleye on June 26, 2008 at 4:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Take note: I would "steal" or "defraud" people out of $80 million dollars in a heart beat if I knew I was only going to go to jail for 4 or 5 years; let's see.... ummm... that's $20 million dollars a year, beats what I'm doing now, where do I sign up AL?
Jail Sentences must "deter" others from repeating the same crime, that is what sentences are for.
Posted by ccfromsc on June 26, 2008 at 5:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Any person that did business with Parish, like this broker should be banned from any business brokerage for the rest of his life. He had to know something. Even CSU is liable. They all pushed this scoundrel on people and made money at it. They are just as culpable.
Posted by Neponset on June 26, 2008 at 5:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
24 years
Posted by Siri on June 26, 2008 at 5:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
He should have gotten the max.
Posted by SCPDBLUE on June 26, 2008 at 5:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Is Mr.Friedrich married? I have not read anything about his family,just "FRIENDS" ,Hhhhmmmm,"FRIENDS".Look at his picture and Perish's picture,Look about the same over weight. Going on buying trips to NY together, sleeping in Parish's swanky three-bedroom timeshare at 68th Street and Broadway and letting Friedrich run his clothing store.Perish buying loud cloths (like Rod Roddey on the price is right),Driving a Purple jag..HHHmmmmmm.Could they have been more than just friends? Everything about Parish was large: his physique, his personality, his intellect, his generosity, his sense of fashion. Parish sounds like a Battery cruiser to me.Wife and kids are at home while he trolls the Battery for young Citadel cadets trying to earn a few extra bucks.He's going to make someone in prison very happy.
Posted by jeff61 on June 26, 2008 at 6:36 p.m.
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Posted by oldglory on June 26, 2008 at 7:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
*blinks*
*holds her breath and wonders how those words have stayed posted*
Posted by jeff61 on June 26, 2008 at 7:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I am simpley asking a question base on a post. The refererence appears to be made, I only wish to make sure I understand if this is what he is refering too
Posted by blues101 on June 26, 2008 at 10:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
anyone who would give a big fat freak in a clown suit and purple car their life savings should have a custodian in charge of their finances for their own protection and the protection of their family's future.
it's not investor greed, it's stupidity.handing over money and not checking on real performance of actual investments you made is beyond stupid. whatever paper lies you were given, you're responsible for researching and seeing with your own eyes exactly what you invested in. investing your retirement funds in that artwork and those collectibles? the list of investments i read was too incredible to believe. it's all very bizarre.
his employers and those who recommended him to investors are also responsible and should do some time.
how on earth could he even get INTO a jaguar?
Posted by blues101 on June 26, 2008 at 10:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
and.... i still don't get how he did it for so long. was any of it stocks/bonds? with all the maddening statements i get for every penny put into or taken out or moved in or out of investments from the companies, all those proxy vote mailings, the IRS getting all the statements of dividends/earnings/losses, etc. for your tax filing right from whomever you invested with - how did he work out not putting real money into those stocks or investments without the investor figuring out the scam at the end of the very first year?
Posted by mdtpace on June 26, 2008 at 11:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
SCPDBLUE is pathetic. Hopefully he is just some blowhard who is a wannabe cop. It would be awful if someone that ignorant actually had any authority.
Posted by SCPDBLUE on June 27, 2008 at 6:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Alot of well to do Charleston elite males get busted BUT had to be go because it wouldnt be PC if they are taken in in and Harv Jacobs finds out about it. Ignorant? No, Street smart? Yes. Wakeup mdtpace alot of Battery queens cruise the Battery and are caught with wedding bands on and pics of the wife and kids in the wallet.This is life in Charleston.And Yes How did you know I was a wannabe cop? Boy you are good. But your alright in my book,does this mean we can be friends now? :D