Posted by Whoorutalking2 on June 19, 2008 at 12:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow what a way to add insult to injury.

How dare they try to get this MURDEROUS SCUM BAG OFF in the KILLING of 5 people?

I knew they were going to play the insanity card; that is so lame and so is Murdering Michael Simmons.

I do pray that the Rainey family can get the results they are looking for in this horrible, heinous crime.

Posted by jammer on June 19, 2008 at 6:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

we need more hard core citizens to deal with these hard core criminals, at least until we get some hard core judges... as if...

Posted by pirate42 on June 19, 2008 at 6:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Just excute him no trial no BS he killed Bible say EYE FOR EYE get real like we need to spend more tax payer money on human trash....

Posted by granny2 on June 19, 2008 at 7:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

How do they do a mental test? Ask a few questions and if you can't answer them, you are mentally unfit? That just means they have no education and dumb as hell. Seems like he knew how to use a gun for armed robbery and murder. I say kill the SOB.

Posted by 1963 on June 19, 2008 at 7:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

He was smart enough to know how to kill and he knew when he did it he would not get very far so why not wait on the cops.
I just don't bye the "temporary insanity" plea. Either you're insane forever or not insane at all. Lack of education and ignorance is not insanity.

Posted by Tammie on June 19, 2008 at 7:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I remember this case, it was a sad story. People can "play crazy", why waste our taxpayers dollars to run comprehensive mental testing on this jerk? He was of sound mind to get in a car and try to drive away, correct?

Posted by captivated on June 19, 2008 at 8:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Let's see here; he was sane enough to get married, sane enough to celebrate his 1st wedding anniversary, sane enough to own and operate a vehicle but after he kills some people, he is automatically crazy. He will be back on the streets in less than two years.

Posted by Early on June 19, 2008 at 8:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

How can you shoot a six year old kid, even if it's not yours?
Keep letting them out dumbasses, they will continue to do crime!
An anonymous tip told police. Let me just ask, you hear five gun shots in the wee hours of the morning and later that day you leave an anonymous tip? Great neighborhood!

Posted by Yeah_I_said_it on June 19, 2008 at 8:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It seems the only people that are playing the "race" and "oppressed by the white man" cards are the ones that are complaining about it! Anyway, I say "deep fry his southern,country ass, like fried chicken...(making hot grease popping sounds)"!

Posted by Yeah_I_said_it on June 19, 2008 at 8:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

That's scary, raregar and I had the same thought. I must get that labotamy now!

Posted by shoelaces on June 19, 2008 at 8:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I taught one of the children. A very sweet child and a real shame what came of him. I was shaken for a long time at the loss of a student. What a sad story for the family and friends. I don't want to give the murderer any attention....he needs to suffer the same fate. You don't harm children!!!!!

Posted by SCdeacinNYC on June 19, 2008 at 8:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Chances are they WONT execute him but he won't see the light of day ever again. If he is actually mentally ill, and there's a pretty good chances that he may be (personally I think anyone who kills their entire family with no apparent rhyme or reason definitely has some messed up stuff going on but whatever)they will probably confine him for life in one of the mental hospitals for criminals.

Very few people can accurate fake the buffers of mental illness examinations, they are usually sociopaths with extremely high intelligence.

If he is NOT crazy...well then he will have to suffer the rest of his days as the only sane person around a bunch of crazies. That won't exactly be the best way to go either...sounds like appropriate torture to me.

Posted by sydneysmom on June 19, 2008 at 8:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I use to see this man every Sunday at church. I remember him bringing William and Hakeem to catechism class on Saturdays. They were sweet boys, typical teenagers, not always paying attention when they should. Of course you can't blame them, the Episcopal catechism is pretty dry stuff at 15 and 16. I have pictures of all us going through Confirmation. I also remember during the sharing the peace part of Sunday service, little Samenia would come by to take a peek at my daughter who was then only a few months old.

I also remember feeling horrified that Sunday morning getting ready for church when we got the call that they had all been killed. And then sitting in church with the rest of my congregation who were also horrified and deeply hurt that these lives had been snuffed out so violently.

I don't believe that man is crazy, just a coward. How can you kill a child let alone the mother of those children that you claim to love. Detra and her children deserve justice. Those children were just babies who will never get a chance to grow up and have children of their own. That man doesn't deserve freedom least of all his life.

Posted by ln1959 on June 19, 2008 at 8:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The insanity plea. This have been going on for so long. Why is it that so many people try using this plea every time they get into trouble. They know what they were doing before they committed the crime. People just don't just all of a sudden do a crime, they plan it. Fry this fool and it would be less on the tax payers.

Early...I agree with you, how can you kill a six year old, even if its not your child.

Posted by Girleygirl on June 19, 2008 at 9:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

He is not crazy. He just realized that he can be put to death and he's scared and remorseful.

Posted by MsPiggy on June 19, 2008 at 9:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Captivated is SO right on this one.

I'm very surprised to read the "fry his azz like southern chicken" comments.'

I knew deep down I liked you people. ;-) haha.

Posted by sydneysmom on June 19, 2008 at 9:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

@Early

Unfortunately, people who live in those neighborhoods do not want to be known as a 'snitch' for fear of what might happen to them. Ever heard of the 'stop snitchin' movement?

Posted by lucy_fan on June 19, 2008 at 9:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Good Moring, all-
I couldn't agree with ya'll more. I can't stand it when these animals commit these violent crimes, and the bleeding hearts want to label them "mentally incompetent". Murder is murder, plain and simple. If our justice system would dole out the death penalty enough, I think the number of violent crimes would go down.

Posted by seriouslyb4real on June 19, 2008 at 9:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

insane or not he knew what he was doing, come on people wake up. he is a low life loser that wants big bubba to take care of him

Posted by lucy_fan on June 19, 2008 at 9:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Girleygirl- Good Morning! do you really think he thinks that? Do you think any criminal thinks that is a possibility anymore? I mean, it should be, but it seems all to often these bstrds get off on a loop hole, or insanity plea, or some other kind of bs. Murder is heinous on it's own, but to murder a child.... let alone 4 children at one time, there is no punishment harsh enough for that.

Posted by SCdeacinNYC on June 19, 2008 at 9:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

lucy there is no connection between how many times we dole out the death penalty and a decrease in murder rate.

Many people who commit the most heinous murders, your charles mansons, jefrey dahmers....(insert any other name of a serial killer here) never receive the death penalty. More often that not it's usually one person who killed on other person. The death penalty isn't even doled out proportionally. A crazy mother drown all of her kids in the bathtub and death penalty isn't even considered. (Though I think the husband had a lot of responsibility there) I'm not saying it should be considered...I'm just saying they way it's even administered now is not proportional to the crimes.

I'm just not sure execution would deter the most heinous of crimes. Maybe your average drug dealer or addict, or crazy/deranged spouse that kills their spouse would care...but what about the people that are truly evil? Would the death penalty deter them? That's working with an assumption that everyone fears death, not everyone does. I tend to believe the most evil people don't.

Posted by greyrider on June 19, 2008 at 9:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Unfortunately, there is a lot of severe mental illness out there. I don't know if this reallt applies with this man, but in today's day, we need to look at the issue of building/expanding mental health prisons.

Tripsa, you're as bad as I am. As soon as I typed the words "severe mental illness" I thought "just ask the people who would rather fund terrorism by buying oil instead of drilling our own"

Posted by armymom on June 19, 2008 at 9:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

1988 - armed robbery, assault and battery with intent to kill and second-degree burglary.

Didn't anyone know in 88 that the guy was crazy and a danger to society? If he was really mental, someone should have seen it while he was locked up before. Or, was he ever locked up? Now he's killed 5 people, who do we blame?

I feel so safe.

Posted by lucy_fan on June 19, 2008 at 9:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

SCdeacinNYC- yes, perhaps you are right. Maybe the death penalty is not the answer in all cases. Maybe Jonesey's suggestion that the punishment fit the crime is better. All I'm saying, like most of the others here, is that if these people knew they were going to be held accountable for their actions and choices via HARSH punishment, maybe, just maybe, a few might have a change of thought.

Posted by ms_lady2u on June 19, 2008 at 9:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

He's not crazy that's his conscious eating at him! Kill his *##, crazy people can die like us!

Posted by RTC on June 19, 2008 at 9:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

A person can be declared insane, but it does not mean that they don't know the difference between right and wrong.
Jeffrey Dahmer was insane, but he knew he had done wrong.
Of course what he did was way worse than this guy, but killing innocent people is wrong no matter which way you look at it.
They have a whole battery of tests that they run these people through, but the problem is who can really say just how conclusive the results actually are.
People have been known to fool so called experts. It is a very difficult decision to decide if a person is competent or not. Just what determines competence?

Posted by MindBath on June 19, 2008 at 9:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

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What a bunch of rednecks...

If even the prosecutor agrees the guy is mentally unfit, why have him stand trial? Just put him away forever and be done with it. But get your emotions under control on here. If all you have done is read the news on this, you have no way of judging whether this guy even knows what he did. I especially love the comment about mentally incompetent people being useless to society so just kill them. Wow. EVOLVE.

How many violent crimes have been reported here in the last few weeks? How many played the "insane card" - it's not like we have everyone getting off on this. Doesn't sound like he just got an "expert" to testify, several doctors... and the DA agrees. If he is a sham, it will come out while he is locked up in a mental facility. Then, VOILA!, not having been tried already, he can stand trial.

Posted by Girleygirl on June 19, 2008 at 9:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Lucy- I think he's smarter than what we think. I think he is remorseful now and he does not want to die because of his actions. I am happy Scarlett sees right through his defense. I'm not saying he should get off but criminals know the law better than their victims.

Posted by lucy_fan on June 19, 2008 at 9:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Exactly, Coldbeer. To have one sit on "death row" for so long is a joke. Seeing them put to death within a week or two of the arrest, that's no joke. That should give other criminals something to think about.

Posted by lucy_fan on June 19, 2008 at 10:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Girleygirl- I think you are right about him being smarter than we think. And I know you are not saying criminals should get off. I just hate the injustice. I have read too many times about murderers and rapists and child molesters getting off on technicalities or insanity pleas and it makes my blood boil.

Posted by MindBath on June 19, 2008 at 10:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Death row inmates who were later exonerated (by, say, DNA evidence) spent an average of almost 10 years from sentencing to exoneration.

I guess if we fry them quick enough...

Posted by noname on June 19, 2008 at 10:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

So, who gives a rat’s azz if he is crazy?

There’s quite a few South Carolina inmates listed on Death Row that is currently housed at Gilliam Psychiatric Hospital awaiting their execution.

Michael Anthony Simmons needs to be added to that list immediately!

Posted by meesta_challie on June 19, 2008 at 10:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

We need a "Guilty by reason of insanity" plea.
Rehab him if you can, but then pack him off to jail
to serve his full sentence.

Posted by RTC on June 19, 2008 at 10:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

For clarification between the two terms:
psy·cho·path
n.A person with an antisocial personality disorder, manifested in aggressive, perverted, criminal, or amoral behavior without empathy or remorse.
so·ci·o·path- a person, as a psychopathic personality, whose behavior is antisocial and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.
Some experts are now saying that the two are one and the same.

Posted by Girleygirl on June 19, 2008 at 10:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I hate the injustices as well. I really do hope the surviving son will get the justice he deserves for his mother and younger siblings. I really do hope Scarlett gets him.

Posted by coolfreaknbeans on June 19, 2008 at 10:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I couldnt agree more ColdBeer.Thats why anti death penalty people make me laugh when they say,"well theyre more punished by staying in jail,its not a quick out" Are you kidding?Once someone is found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt,the death penalty should be implemented immediately.Not our tax dollars paying to support these scum bags while they appeal for 20yrs.

Posted by noname on June 19, 2008 at 10:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I seriously doubt if anyone would lose any sleep over his sorry azz.

Fry him today!

Posted by lucy_fan on June 19, 2008 at 10:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Meesta- why should our taxdollars pay for these animals to stay in jail?? Somethings you just cannot rehab.

Posted by lucy_fan on June 19, 2008 at 10:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well said, coolfreak.

Posted by MindBath on June 19, 2008 at 10:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Tax dollars are well spent in these cases. It's the cost of having a society where we are reasonably safe from 1) criminals and 2) improper convictions. And coolfreak, everyone who ever sat on death row was found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Yet hundreds have later been found innocent. Some too late. How many is it okay for the state to wrongly kill so that you may save a buck?

I was wondering just how many different usernames NANCY GRACE has on this website...

Posted by charlene68 on June 19, 2008 at 10:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

THE SOB IS NOT INCOMPETENT IF HE CAN KILL 5 PEOPLE, HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING SO HE IS NOT INCOMPETENT. THEY JUST TRYING TO GET HIM OFF, BUT THE JUDGE AND JURY WILL LOOK AT THAT AND LAUGH THM OUT OF COURT...... IDIOT.

Posted by Test2007 on June 19, 2008 at 11:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Umm, I'm sorry but a teen seeing someone serve 20 to life for a crime is not going to think "oh gee maybe i shouldn't do that". You wanna know how I came up with that? Because that crap happens today and jackasses are still committing crimes (regardless of race raregar). BTK got life in prison and he bound, tortured and killed how many??????? Leave your race sh-- at home. Good grief. A normal adult human being understands consequences so it goes without saying that a person would know that if you killed 5 people your ass would go to prison. There is no death penalty or incarceration deterrent there. They ALREADY know that yet they do it anyway.

People who keep saying that he could have fooled a mental test, umm you are stretching it a bit. This fool is not Ted Bundy. He killed people point blank. He didn't sneak out of the bushes or kidnap anyone. He didn't have some elaborate scheme. He didn't even evade police for that long if I remember correctly. He looks dumb and even his eyes look crazy. Like my Mom used to say, it is all in the eyes. He is not some criminal genius so stop giving him more credit than he is worth.

Posted by Test2007 on June 19, 2008 at 11:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh and I am personally against the death penalty but if a murderer is executed I am surely not saddened. Just don't give me any tripe about it being a deterrent. That crap does not fly with me.

MindBath - I have read about men who had been incarcerated for most of their lives just to be freed years later on DNA. Did you hear about the man who was in prison for a long time for murder and some attorneys KNEW he did not do it but neglected to tell anyone the truth because their client committed the crime. They could only bring it up after that filthy POS died. The guy is an older guy now. Two lawyers knew and said nothing. That one thoroughly pissed me off.

Posted by megaward on June 19, 2008 at 11:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

String the M'F'er up and be done with this P.O.S.

Posted by nochasgirl on June 19, 2008 at 11:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If he is not punished appropriately here on earth, he will be punished later. As hot as Charleston is, think how hot it is in h*ll. Payday someday!

Posted by telitlikeitis on June 19, 2008 at 11:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'M NOT SURE IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER ERICA DEGUZMEN WHO WAS MURDER IN 1994 BY A YOUNG MAN AND WAS FOUND ON MOTHERS DAY IN RIDGEVILLE.SHE WAS 18 YEARS OLD AT THE TIME,BOUT TO GRADUATE HS AND ALSO A MODEL.SHE WAS MY BEST FRIEND LIKE A SISTER.HE RAPED HER WHICH THAT WAS DROPPED TO SEXUAL ASSULT AND THEN RAN HER OVER WITH HIS TRUCK SO MURDER WAS DROPPED TO MANSLAUGHTER (WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE).SHE WAS FOUND BY SOME PEOPLE RIDING THEIR 4WHEELERS FACE DOWN IN A PUDDLE. SHE WAS BRUISED ALL OVER HER BODY. WHEN WE FINALLY GOT TO SEE HER AT THE FUNERAL YOU COULD SEE THE FEAR ON HER FACE THAT HE CREATED WHEN DID WHAT HE TO HER.WE WENT TO TRIAL AND HE GOT 30 YEARS FOR SEXUAL ASSULT AND 30 YEARS FOR MANSLAUGHTER.A CRIME IS A CRIME NO MATTER HOW YOU WORD IT OR HOW YOU DO.HE TRIED TO GET OFF WITH BEING TOO INTOXICATED BUT HE WAS ABLE TO DRIVE FROM TRAILWOOD ON DORCHESTER RD TO RIDGEVILLE IN SUMMERVILLE ,YEAH RIGHT!!HES STILL IN PRISON TRYING TO GET PAROLE BUT WE GO TO EVERY HEARING TO STOP IT . I TRULY HOPE THAT HE HAS TO SERVE HIS FULL TIME AND BUBBA IN PRISON GETS A HOLD OF HIM WHILE HES BACK THERE.TODAY PEOPLE TO VALUE HUMAN LIFE AND HOW SHORT LIFE IS.WHEN SOMEONE TAKES SOMEONE SO CLOSE TO YOU ALL YOUR EMOTIONS GO OUT THE WINDOW.I ASK GOD TO HELP ME FORGIVE HIM BUT ITS VERY HARD ,EVEN THOUGH I KNOW GOD WILL TAKE CARE OF HIM IN THE END .I AT THIS POINT AM A EYE FOR A EYE PERSON NAD BELIEVE YOU SHOULD FEEL THE SAME PAIN YOU CAUSED ON PEOPLE NOT JUST THE PERSON YOU HURT.I FEEL THE ONLY WAY HE SHOULD LEAVE PRISON IS IN A BODY BAG.HE SHOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO ENJOY LIFE SEE A CHILD BE BORN ,HOLIDAYS WITH FAMILY NONE OF THE GOOD THINGS WE TAKE FOR GRANTED EVERY DAY.SHE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO SEE THE CHILDREN SEE MAY HAVE HAD OR HOW FAR HER CAREER IN MODELING COULD HAVE WENT.HE TOOK MORE THAN HER LIFE HE EFFECTED EVERYONE SHE KNEW BECAUSE SHE WAS LOVED BY MANY . WE LOSE SO MANY PEOPLE WE LOVE TO VOLIENCE THAT COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED ONLY IF WE FOLLOW OUR FIRST GUT FEELING WE HAVE BEFORE WE DO SOMETHING WE KNOW BE WRONG.I KNOW GOD HAS A PLAN FOR US ALL AND WE NEVER KNOW WHEN HE MAY CALL US HOME BUT I PRAY ITS NOT BECAUSE OF VOLIENCE. THESE PEOPLE DIED A HORRIBLE DEATH AND I PRAY FOR THEM AND FAMILIES . SOMETIMES WE NEED SNITCHES TO HELP US FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED .I ONLY CONSIDER SNITCHES TO BE SNITCHES WHEN THEY SNITCH OUT OF JEALOUSY NOT BECAUSE ITS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. WE NEED TO STEP UP AND SNITCH AND SHOW THESE CRIMMALS THAT WE AINT HAVENT ,YOU WILL NOT INTRUDE ON MY LIFE AND FAMILY. IT WILL STOP WHEN WE AS A PEOPLE MAKE IT STOP,THE GOVERMENT DONT CARE THEY WANT US TO COMMIT CRIMES SO THEY CAN HAVE A REASON TO GET MORE MONEY AND MAKE MORE RULES FOR US. WE WILL ALL HAVE OUR DAY WITH THE TRUE JUDGE ,THE LORD WHEN ITS OUR TIME . MAY GOD BLESS YOU ALL AND THESE FAMILYS AND FAMILY THAT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PAIN OF LOSING SOMEONE WE LOVE.

Posted by Jane on June 19, 2008 at 11:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hmmm...his mental capacity went down after he was arrested. How convenient. Well, if he isn't mentally capable of standing trial, just shoot him. You know, like he did to the mother of his children and his children. Shoot him the same number of times he shot all his victims. Case closed.

Posted by coolfreaknbeans on June 19, 2008 at 11:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

MindBath-what would you suggest a hug?No.Thats silly.Maybe cuddling would help.

Posted by Test2007 on June 19, 2008 at 11:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

dude - break that paragraph up please

Posted by Jane on June 19, 2008 at 11:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

telitlikeitis, I just read your post. I am so sorry about your friend. I believe the animal that murdered your friend should have the exact punishment. He should be run over with a truck until he is dead.

Posted by walleyedwoman1215 on June 19, 2008 at 11:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

MindBath, thank you.

Posted by RTC on June 19, 2008 at 12:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Test, Ted Bundy had a borderline genius IQ. He even served as a volunteer on a crisis hotline with noted true crime author, Ann Rule, and he had her fooled. She wrote the book "The Stranger Beside Me" that paints an exellent picture of how a person like this can fit into society and never be suspected as anything but an average guy.
He was a master at fooling people. His targets were basically college girls with brown hair parted down the middle. He killed many in Washington and Oregon, and he made the mistake of going to Florida where he was caught and later executed. They still don't know just how many girls that he killed, but the authorities are pretty sure that it was alot more than those for which he was prosecuted. He was very charismatic, had the looks of any normal person, and was very good at persuading young girls to trust him.
You just never know who may be a killer.

Posted by Test2007 on June 19, 2008 at 12:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

RTC - I read that about him too. I heard some people even refer to him as "good looking" too. I didn't see it but I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. He was very very disturbing.

Posted by tiffhug on June 19, 2008 at 12:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by raregar67 on June 19, 2008 at 10:22 a.m.
scdeac...just once get your facts first. Manson got the death penalty by a jury and judge; the supreme court vacated all death peanalties which spared Manson. And Dahmers recieved the death penalty while in general population. What't the matter deac? Another black face staring at us again claiming insanity, and the honkeys saying no, no, no! Stick an apple in his black ass and bar-b-q him over an open spit like the pig he is. Leave the head on please.

Wow! In 2008 we still have this sort of mentality and hatred in our hearts. Don't get me wrong, I believe that this man should certainly die and he should burn in hell for what he has done, no matter what mental defects he may or may not possess and guess what, I am a black female. Wow, crazy I know, because we all play the race card or want him to get off. Real Newsflash, we want him to die just as much as you do and we don't have to insult you or your ethnic community to get our point across.
Why were we not this outraged by the call girl who shot the man in her bedroom twice, that has yet to go to trial and may never make it to trial at all? I get it, if you kill one person you can get off for any reason, if you kill 5 then you should have an apple stuck in your a** and be bar b que'd. I refuse to believe the difference is a matter of ethnicity, call me crazy. Murder is murder is murder, all day long and all night as well. While they are roasting Simmons, roast the call girl too! I am sure we can find two apples.

Posted by KidYendor on June 19, 2008 at 12:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Scarlett we like you and you are good looking and that's why we voted you again as solicitor. We ask that you try him then chain him to the back of a county truck and have him drug back and forth across the Ravenel bridge until dead. Taxpayers will not mind the cost for gas.

Posted by RTC on June 19, 2008 at 12:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Test, I agree, I didn't see where he was good looking either, just average. It just goes to show you that people don't have to look "weird" to be killers.
Hvae you read the books about Jeffrey Dahmer? He was definitely a nutcase, and his parents weren't much better.
I know some people might think that I'm weird, because I read these types of books, but I just like to try to figure out what makes these people tick.
I want to be knowledgeable about these people in order to be aware of the fact that anyone I meet could be one of them. I don't desire to be paranoid, but I hope to be able to identify certain behavior patterns in people for safety's sake.

Posted by captivated on June 19, 2008 at 12:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This guy shot everybody in the house, then went outside and sat on the porch. I think if he was really crazy, he would have gone outside and shot everyone in sight until he ran out of ammo. I don't think crazy people can plan things that well. I also think keeping someone on death row for 20 years is not much of a deterrent. We can't afford to keep all these convicts on death row now and the number is rising. I need my money to buy gas.

Posted by Girleygirl on June 19, 2008 at 12:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

RTC- You are not weird. I love reading Ann Rule's books as well.

Posted by ms_lady2u on June 19, 2008 at 12:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tellitlikeitis,I do remember Erica from school, she was a beautiful young lady with a bright future, these animals know how to munipulate the system,I feel no pity at all for these scheming S.O.B's ! ROT IN HELL!!!!

Posted by hardatwork on June 19, 2008 at 1:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

He married (insane) and less than a year he kill wife and her kids. He's not crazy he has smart legal advice. Being in jail drove him crazy. I hope he gets use to it. Mental hospitals are no picnic either.

Posted by Test2007 on June 19, 2008 at 1:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

RTC - I have gone on the doe network (doenetwork.org) not out of morbid fascination but just to see if I have seen any of these people. I pay close attention to people missing or found in SC. I want to think that I could help somehow. There are women and men who are still considered "missing" because of Bundy and Dahmer. In fact I think all of you should check out www.doenetwork.org. There are people who are still considered missing. A lot of them I know are most likely dead b/c evidence pointed to someone but they couldn't hold them. There is a section called Unexplained disappearances and a section that has the likeness of unidentified bodies. I hate to think of the men, women and YES kids who still need to be identified. So no, I don't think it is weird.

Did you hear how the police actually stopped Dahmer (i think at a checkpoint) once when he had a body in the back seat of his car? He charmed the officer into letting him go. One of the sickest I've ever heard of is Gacy. Completely revolting.

Posted by icunvme on June 19, 2008 at 1:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

he was mentally competent to kill 5 people....shoot i can fail i metal test 2

Posted by RTC on June 19, 2008 at 1:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Test, Yeah, Gacy wanted to start a new fashion statement. He was definitely a gross one. Remember how that poor Asian kid was running in the streets after he got away from Dahmer, and Milwaukee cops saw him and just laughed and called him another little f***ot. I was sickened by those woman that were yelling that they loved him when he was going into court. Now, that is weird!
Girley, Read John Douglas' books. "Mindhunters" and "Anyone You Want Me To Be" are good ones.
I am glad to see that other people share my same interests in books. I was starting to worry about myself. :)
Oh, and Test, thanks for the link. I will definitely check that out. If you know of any other good ones, please let me know.
Check back with ya'll later, I gotta go run errands.

Posted by kerwin1959 on June 19, 2008 at 1:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Great comments, ColdBeer. I am in favor of the death penalty, and I don't think it is overused in heinous crime cases. However, the automatic appeal and the years that pass from verdict to execution need to be addressed. I wonder how many death penalty cases are actually overturned? And at what cost to the taxpayers?

This guy may be crazy now, but he knew what he was doing when he loaded the gun and emptied it into the bodies of his family. He knew what he was doing when he was "fidgeting". He knew what he was doing when he tried to leave the scene.

The bottom line is........he KNEW what he was doing. He has earned the death penalty.

Posted by MindBath on June 19, 2008 at 1:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

He's a Witch! BURN HIM!!!

Posted by tiffhug on June 19, 2008 at 2:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by MindBath on June 19, 2008 at 1:59 p.m.
He's a Witch! BURN HIM!!!

He may not burn here on earth, other than the electric chair, but he will burn eternally. He needs to pay for what he has done. Let's pray the justice system does what it is supposed to do and bring justice and closure for the family of the deceased.

Posted by SCHoser on June 19, 2008 at 2:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I couldn't care less if he is sane or not! I do not want any person who would do something of this nature-knowingly or not- near me or my family, or anyone else for that matter. Hell, if he didn't know what he was doing, what's to stop him from doing it again? Who would want this animal living next to them? Some would say it is cruel to punish the mentally unfit. I say it is cruel to let them out and about to hurt others again. Susan Smith and Andrea Yates should be put to death immediately! No question! Family annihilators should be dealt with severely and swiftly.

Posted by cb7447 on June 19, 2008 at 2:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I really think he is "crazy" so I think we should put him in his own private cell with the door never to be opened again give him some knives maybe some rope & I think the "crazy" problem will be solved in no time :)

Posted by trainey35 on June 19, 2008 at 3:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am the family member of the people who died. This man is killing them all over again. This is breaking my family's heart. When is justice ever going to be served

Posted by dmwallac on June 19, 2008 at 3:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Not too comfortable with the statement that, if mentally unfit, he would be put away in a state hospital "indefinitely." Why not "definitely" as in until he is fit to enter a regular prison for the rest of his life...

On another issue flowing about, we can never allow "swift" executions. Remember The Inquisition, The Salem Witch Trials, etc... I have read estimates that more than 1% of people on death row will eventually be cleared and released. This is based on stats from the last 20 years. That means there are some 30 people sitting on death row today for whom it will later be determined should be released. The death penalty will always be slow.

Even if it were quick, it is no deterrent. The Dahmers and Gacys and Bundys of the world will not be deterred. Nor will the family killers, most of which kill themselves anyway, just like school shooters. Nor the majority of the rest who think they will get away with it. Put them away for life with Truth in Sentencing (= No Parole) or sentence them to death and accept that appeals are necessary to assure the state never kills an innocent person.

Posted by msqdpye on June 19, 2008 at 3:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I hate to say Scarlett Wilson is a joke! Insane my ass this man took them out the same night he prepared to kill them, if Micheal doesn't face to what he done and gets what he deserves, he'll NEVER be safe in Charleston, because the family is still hurting over this and we hope that they'll give all of us a chance to kill his sorry ass over and over again! Scarlett we just voted to keep your cowardly ass in office now do your got damn job and don't let this man get off Free!

Posted by Test2007 on June 19, 2008 at 4:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

raregar67 - I think the saddest thing I've found out in a while is that you have actually procreated, and that someone let you.

I shudder at the thought.

To quote SC - You are now on IGNORE (huh what, can't hear ya)

Posted by buff_o_rilla on June 19, 2008 at 5:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Find him guilty, Sentence him to death, Evaluate him while he waits, Execute him anyways.

Posted by Siri on June 19, 2008 at 8 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mindbath, how dare you compare this POS to a Witch.

Posted by peachie on June 19, 2008 at 8:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am not the judge of anyones life. It just seems strange that people can be strong minded enough to have children but when they goof up and do things like this they get real dumb? { Is ithis true or is it just me}

Posted by professional_blk_woman on June 19, 2008 at 9:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'd be hard pressed not to believe that SOMETHING isnt wrong with this man. He has that tell tale look in his eyes. He's not right, and it shows! Whether it's mental retardation, true insanity, or a personality disorder, I dont know, and THAT is the real question. If you're telling me he's not competent to stand trial because he's mentally retarded, that's a bunch of BS. He needs to be tried just as any of us would be. If you're saying he has a personality disorder, get his ass some treatment and again, he needs to stand trial just like the rest of us would be required to do. Now, if you're saying he's insane, I'm going to have to disagree with the majority of you and say that I DONT believe he should receive the death penalty. I DO believe, however, that they should medicate the hell out of him and lock him in a mental institution for the rest of his life. Who wants this fool living next door to them?

RAREGAR67, HAVENT I ASKED YOU BEFORE TO REMOVE YOUR WHITE HOOD WHEN YOU ENTER THIS ROOM????

Posted by MindBath on June 19, 2008 at 10:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by tiffhug on June 19, 2008 at 2:15 p.m.
He may not burn here on earth, other than the electric chair, but he will burn eternally.

Burn eternally? If you're right about this, you've uncovered the solution to the energy crisis! I would normally protest frying a retard, but...

Posted by MindBath on June 19, 2008 at 10:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sorry Siri, didn't mean to step on (pointy) toes!

Posted by telitlikeitis on June 20, 2008 at 12:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

trainey35-i hate to say it but it will never end .my friend killer has been convicted for 13years and we still have to go to parole hearings and the memory of her will never die ,so the answer to your question is when god calls him home to face what he did here on earth that will be the true justice served... im sorry for your loss and keep praying he will get you through it!!!!!