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Man shot to death in Charleston

The Post and Courier
Monday, June 16, 2008


A Charleston man was shot to death around midnight Sunday at the corner of America and Amherst streets.

Earl Rogers, 36, died within an hour of being transported to the Medical University Hospital, Charleston County Deputy Coroner Kelly Myers said.

Investigators have no suspects or motive, said Charles Francis, public information officer for the Charleston Police Department. The shooting is still under investigation, he said.

Rogers has a criminal history dating back to 1992, according to the Charleston County Courts Web site. In 2007, he was charged with five counts of possession with intent to distribute cocaine.




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Posted by stand828 on June 16, 2008 at 3:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Good Riddance...



Posted by FiscalConservative on June 16, 2008 at 6:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

He was trying to get his life back together and he was a father of six and.....sorry, I couldn't keep a straight face. Good riddance.



Posted by wpc3iop on June 16, 2008 at 7:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sorry about that...NOT!!!



Posted by suec on June 16, 2008 at 7:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

WCSC took up the "killed on father's day" angle, Then as an afterthought at the end, mentioned that he had been arrested numerous times for non-payment of child support.

He's a sperm donor not a father.



Posted by 29407 on June 16, 2008 at 8:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

He may not have been a good citizen, but you guys are jerks. Who takes the time to write things like that when people die?!



Posted by Early on June 16, 2008 at 8:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

They need to bulldoze America street. How many people have been shot on America street?



Posted by ironhorse on June 16, 2008 at 8:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

29407, how far behind ARE you in your child support payments?



Posted by shoelaces on June 16, 2008 at 8:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It ceases to amaze me why the media doesn't just read the same script over and over but just say the "victim's" name where the script says INSERT NAME HERE. Are these stories really different from one another?



Posted by letstakeawalk on June 16, 2008 at 9:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I must be playing the stereo too loud - I didn't even hear the gunfire last night! Nor the sirens...

Rest assured, 29407, as a resident of the vicinity where the gentleman was shot, I tell you he will not be missed.

I can also tell you that business has really picked up sent Thomas Ravenel went away! I see lots of seersucker and white-collars up here getting their fix...(really, not joking)



Posted by ColdBeer on June 16, 2008 at 9:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well, if they catch the murderer, this will result in 2 dirt bags being taken off of the streets. Not a bad thing at all.



Posted by pe_ce on June 16, 2008 at 10:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

WOW. You know I can not believe the military, police officers, fire department, and the national guard signed up for a job to help people like some of you. I would like to respond to the good riddance comment. How dear you!!!!!!!! Don't you know that is somebody child you are talking about????? Or maybe you just don't care????? Either way you need to practice the old saying if you don't have anything nice to say don't say ANYTHING at all. You may have children, nieces, nephews, aunts, uncles, grandparents and friends who loves you. But what happen if they die and someone respond to them the way you respond to Earl? Good Riddance, how would you feel. Please always remember what goes around comes around faster than you think. His family is grieving now but you do not know what you are your family have to face next week or maybe even today. Your comment let me know you are NOT a praying person. You are a person that judge other people. Did anybody EVER take you to Sunday School??? You act like you never sinned or did anything wrong to other people? Please rest to sure that you are NOT perfect. Instead of writing that dumb comment you should have prayed for the family is grieving. But since you seem not to be saved because I should not expect much for the comments you made. But please believe that all of our day is coming soon. We all MUST and Will die. And we have a God to answer to. Then Heaven or Hell will be our home. So instead of writing dumb comments pray that your soul is right before you die or hell will be your home. Try going to church and develop a better attitude. I hope nothing like this ever happen to your child and someone body writes that about your child for you to see. But like I said what goes around comes around.



Posted by pe_ce on June 16, 2008 at 10:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

We as a people really need to do better. We should never make comments like these in a tragedy like this. We as a people need to come together. This fight is not against flesh and blood yes it appears to be that way. But there is a adversary called the devil. And the devil has many workers called demons and the demons will dwell inside of you if you let him. The devil want to kill each and every one of us in our sin so we will go back to hell with him. You know everybody want to go to Heaven but nobody want to go to church and give God his time, nobody want to give God an offering, nobody want to be saved anymore, a lot of people don't even know what the Holly Ghost is, a lot of people don't know that the rapture is coming. Please read Revelation. Somebody need to enlighten you all somebody need to preach to you all. What is going on with you. Men should be serving as deacons in the church. Women should be ushering in church. And not just any church but a church who is going to teach the true word of God. Not the watering stuff not the preaching that don't convict you. Not the preaching that allows you to live any kind of way and tell you, you are going to Heaven. NO Heaven is a prepared place for prepared people. Come on now it is time to get right. Don't let death knock at your door and you are not spiritually ready. At the end it don't matter about the comments people make about you it is what God has to say about you. So please lets do better. Don't write ugly comments about people's loved one. If you don't have anything nice to say about Earl don't say anything at all it is as plain and simple as that. And remember it might be their day today but your day of tears will come as well and you will need all the love and support you can handle.

Stay positive from pe_ce



Posted by pe_ce on June 16, 2008 at 10:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Nobody are dirt bags, he was a person just like you. You are worst than the kids in the school yard. I hope you are not a parent because you have not matured yourself. Yet again that is someone's child. Be careful what you say about people.



Posted by forget on June 16, 2008 at 10:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

pe_ce -- what "tragedy" are you refering to? Apparently this "pillar of society" hadn't sold drugs to one of your children or robbed you, etc. Yet.



Posted by forget on June 16, 2008 at 10:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

most of us are parents. And would like to stay that way. Now we have one less predator out there looking to get our children hooked on drugs so that he can have a return customer. And if our children aren't hooked on drugs, maybe they won't lead a life of crime like this POS.



Posted by wpc3iop on June 16, 2008 at 10:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

pe_ce: Spare us the rambling, grammatically incorrect BS...



Posted by ColdBeer on June 16, 2008 at 10:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

pe_ce, your comments are so far out there that I'm not even sure they are worth responding too. I'll try...

This WAS a dirt bag. He was NOT just like me. I'm not a drug taking, drug dealing criminal. Our planet is MUCH better off with this DIRT BAG DEAD. I am a parent and have taught all of my kids to be upstanding citizens and to despise dirt bags such as the one mentioned in this article. You do realize, don't you, that Hitler was also someone's child. Is he "just like you"? John Wayne Gasey "just like you"? Ted Bundy "just like you"?

As far as your religious beliefs... you're incorrect there too. I have NEVER sinned. Sin is a religious concept that only applies to the people that believe in those religious beliefs. I have done things that are wrong, yes, but I have never sinned. As for having to answer to your god... that will never happen. He's not worthy of my time and I certainly won't be "answering" to him. If he does exist, he needs to answer some things for me. Why did two innocent little girls get gunned down on a country road by their house this weekend, their bodies used for target practice? Many other questions too.

You may not have ever considered this before, but as an agnostic, I’d be willing to bet that my morals and values are better than yours. It is not necessary for a person to go to church or have blind faith in a god in order for them to be a good human being. Your judgment of those that don’t share your beliefs states it all. Hypocritical.

There are bad people in the world. This guy was one of them. Any pain his family feels is brought on by his actions, not our words.

Go back to your little world pe_ce, you are not ready for the real world.



Posted by jca on June 16, 2008 at 11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

im with the good riddance crowd my first thought was one less thug for my taxes to pay for



Posted by pe_ce on June 16, 2008 at 11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Just like all of you have opinions so do I. And yes will voice mine as long as I have a mouth to talk and fingers to type. I am glad to hear that most of you have children because that is my point. Drug dealers should NOT be selling drugs or rob our homes. Heck no. But they don't deserve to die in the street like a dog either. The murder in this case is wrong. And I feel like all of you are wrong for writing comments like you made. Don't you know his family can read this. Don't you all know that they are going through enough right now. They know Earl was not the best person in the world but he mattered to them. The loved him. Just like you have family that loves you. Just like you love your child. You you and you may not care that another life has been taken. But they care, I care, and it is sad that you don't care. When I said be careful of what you say to people I meant that. Years from now it can be your child in the paper. You can do all you can to raise your child the right way but sometimes they go astray. Whose to say that your child won't sell drugs or do break ins. What happen if someone murder your child? Regardless of the life your child lives you still love your child. That is the point I am making. I don't get a dern what you all say about me or my comments. But it is still sad that as a people we can not come together on crimes as drug dealing and murder. That is why it won't get better. We can't stand together as one and fight this. We just want to sit back and complain and point fingers. As you can see that is NOT working. Since you all are parents what are you all coming up with to ensure this don't happen to your child? Or are we to busy putting fingers? There is NO unity and that is a problem. wpc3iop I feel sorry for you. And I don't need to go on a religious board. You are are not practicing simple teaching. And I already know the enemy hate the word and rejects it.



Posted by pe_ce on June 16, 2008 at 11:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

All I can say coldbear is that I feel sorry for you. Deeply sorry. Your way of thinking and your beliefs are your business. I can't tell you your outcome you just have to live your life and see what your end will be. But as for me I will take my chances with the Father Son And the Holy Ghost. I will take my chances being saved. I would rather live my life believing there is a heaven than living and not believing in it. Because when I die I can't change my choice and then hell will be my home. So let me ask you this, did you create yourself? Did you create your children. Someone had to make you. What did you vanish into thin air?



Posted by forget on June 16, 2008 at 11:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Does anyone know what I really HATE? Someone who pushes their own personal religious beliefs down my throat. I hate the fact that some go door to door to shove religious retoric down my throat. What a person chooses to believe in is their own PERSONAL business and not to be argued against. And most importantly not told that they are WRONG and then told what they should be believing.
I was born and raised Catholic. I personally don't believe (or choose not to) everything that is taught in the Catholic church. My choice.
Anyway, sure he was someone's child. And the first time he did something wrong, he should have been dealt with. If my child does something illegal, she's going to face the consequences the first time, learn a lesson (hopefully), and then we aren't doing the same things 15 years later. Actually, there's discipline in my home from the beginning. She knows that if she does wrong there are consequences. And she knows she will pay them. No question. I also pay attention to every aspect of her life. School first (honor student), activities (sport for every season), and friends. If I don't care for one of her friends, time with that one is very limited. After all, i'm in charge.



Posted by forget on June 16, 2008 at 11:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

oh, by the way, my mother and father made me. That much I did learn.



Posted by ColdBeer on June 16, 2008 at 11:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

pe_ce, my mom and dad created me in what, I can only assume, had to be an AWESOME act of human sexuality. If your god was present when I was made, I'm sure he was blushing. I say that I have to assume it was an awesome act of human sexuality because I know for a fact that when my wife act I have sex, it is awesomely incredible and I assume that ability was passed on to me from my parents. If your god was present when I made my kids, I'm sure he was taking notes.

Personally, I don't like it when I have to "attack" the religious beliefs of others, but i won't stand by and let you judge me based on your beliefs. I hope your beliefs make you happy and I hope you find what you seek. You just need to understand that they are YOUR beliefs and are not shared by everyone else. There are MANY great people in this world that are not born again/saved. There are many horrible murderers and paist that ARE born again/saved.

Again, back to the article, this man DID deserve to die like a dog in the streets. He brought than on himself. None of our post here today did that to him.

There is no need to feel sorry for me pe_ce. I am a very happy and content person. My life is full of love and joy (and good fishing and cold beer). I may be wrong about my beliefs. Frankly, I don't care. I have met way too many born again/saved people that I would NOT want to spend eternity with for the whole thing to matter much to me.



Posted by forget on June 16, 2008 at 11:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Amen, Coldbeer!



Posted by eyfigueroa on June 16, 2008 at 11:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

pe_co: I cannot speak for Coldbeer but I would like to answer some of your questions:

*what if my child did wrong? I would love them still however I would allow them to suffer the consequences of their actions. I would not go on a public forum bemoaning the fact that others speak ill of her. As an adult she lived a life that led her to her end and I could not blame others for thinking ill of her.

You pull out the ‘God’ and ‘Christianity’ card as if religion is some sort of barrier against criticism. This gentleman led a life of crime, thereby making him a criminal. He also died at the hand of a criminal, thereby making him at the very least partially responsible for his death. No demons, just free will is what got this man killed. From what I understand God gave humans free will to choose the path that they walk. This man CHOSE crime and in doing so CHOSE death

Do I advocate calling a human being an animal? Generally no. However for you to be angry with us tax-paying, law abiding citizens venting our frustrations at another life needlessly taken, is a waste of your time and energies.

Serve your God and continue to worship as you please. But don’t flail at those of us who call a spade a spade just because it may upset your Biblical sensibilities.



Posted by Weeeee on June 16, 2008 at 11:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"God" must've made that guy in California go crazy and beat his kid to death.



Posted by Whoorutalking2 on June 16, 2008 at 12:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

rotflmao@raregar67!



Posted by Whoorutalking2 on June 16, 2008 at 12:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

In my lol@ raregar67 it was the comment warm feeling and peeing in pants.

I also would like to extend my condolences to the family.



Posted by Test2007 on June 16, 2008 at 12:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think it is great to vent frustrations but what the hell is your venting doing to make things better? Let me guess...nothing. I don't agree with that whole religious commentary pe_ce made but I do agree that people on this board are quick to jump on the "good riddance" bandwagon.

I know one thing I do believe in is karma and karma can get you with a big old bite in the ass. I would be careful of the crazy crap I spout.



Posted by grannyofsix on June 16, 2008 at 12:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Cold Beer you are awesome! and I mean that in a good way. we sometimes disagree but, here lately WOW! as far as you not beliving in God thats ok. i am sure you are a good man i say this because of your post even the ones i dont agree with. maybe this man should not have been murdered but it did save tax payers money for jail time for the rest of his life. did he deserve to die ?I cant say but i do know we have one less drug scum to deal with now. and the person that killed him? well we will have to wait for the courts on that



Posted by letstakeawalk on June 16, 2008 at 12:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Karma" has helped us out by ridding us of a profligate criminal.



Posted by ColdBeer on June 16, 2008 at 12:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't wake up in the morning hoping that "this" person will get killed or "that" person will get killed. I don't wish murder on anyone. The bottom line in this case is that the guy was living a life of crime. Sooner or later, had he not been killed, he would have contributed to someone else's death (If he hadn't already). Crime is out of control. I have no sympathy for criminals. I have to change my life, and the life of those I love, to try and avoid running in to some crack head with a gun in his hand trying to get enough cash for his neck rock. It should not be that way. When a druggie loses his/her life, there is one less crazy out there that I have to worry about. THAT is my point when I say we are better off with them gone.



Posted by forget on June 16, 2008 at 12:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

test - what are we doing to make things better? Well, first of all, we are teaching our own children right from wrong, showing them with everyone of these articles what happens eventually to career criminals. We are trying to vote out useless politicians that are soft on crime and repeat offenders. We are educating our young people. Educated people are less likely to be career criminals. We are sitting on the juries of the criminals and giving them the maximum sentences allowed. Etc.



Posted by Test2007 on June 16, 2008 at 12:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Karma can do a lot of other things too. Taking a cue from your comment I think you should just sit and wait...



Posted by Test2007 on June 16, 2008 at 1:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Forget - I saw your comment and I had to get to it first. LOL - "Educated people are less likely to be career crininals"??? No offense but a crack head robbing you of 20 dollars compared to Enron robbing it's employees of how much?? White collar crime is still crime.

Also, If you think you are doing your job so well (max prison time and voting out politicians who are soft on crime) exactly why is crime still high? Crime is not a black and white issue. I know some of you who think it is just that easy.

Coldbeer- I know how you think by reading your previous posts. Regardless of your thoughts, every one of us was born from someone. That guy is someone else's child, criminal or not. Maybe it is not your child and maybe your kids are super duper perfect but I would be very careful about that. Even people who raise their kids "right" can raise a drug addict, murderer or God knows what else. Being raised "right" is not always a deterrent.



Posted by letstakeawalk on June 16, 2008 at 1:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think my original comment should be re-posted, edited for clarity.

"I must be playing the stereo too loud - I didn't even hear the gunfire last night! Nor the sirens...
Rest assured, 29407, as a resident of the vicinity where the gentleman was shot, I tell you he will not be missed.
I can also tell you that business has really picked up [for the drug dealers at the intersection of America and Judith Strets] since Thomas Ravenel went away [for Federal cocaine charges]! I see lots of seersucker and white-collars up here getting their fix...(really, not joking)"

Be reassured, I'm not the dealer, nor a customer, just a resident of a neighborhood that is overwhelmed by the scourge of drugs, and a community that allows the wealthy and powerful to get away with crimes that would send lesser people to jail for much longer.



Posted by umakebrains on June 16, 2008 at 1:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Coldbeer, keep your affairs in order since you are the highest power. I see some peace lilys in your near future, You better believe in something.



Posted by ColdBeer on June 16, 2008 at 1:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

test2007, you are correct that screwed up things can and will happen. My kids are not perfect. They are great kids (young adults now), but not perfect. I would be devestated if one of them got in to this lifestyle. I would be emotionally destroyed if one of them was murdered because they chose a life of crime. I would not, however, change my opinions on this stuff. My kids know that too.

umakebrains, I am not, by any means, the "highest power". I'm not even the highest power in my own life (my wife is). :)



Posted by Weeeee on June 16, 2008 at 1:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Uh. Did you just threaten another poster?



Posted by forget on June 16, 2008 at 1:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

test- crime is still so high because they ARE NOT giving the max sentences. If you are so inclined, go to the Chas. website and look at the page after page of repeat offenders. And they're doing the same crimes over and over again. They're doing them again because they are put back on the streets. And I say lock up the white collar criminals, too. I'm all for equal opportunity.
Have you really given a good look at their facial expressions when their mugshots are taken? Sheer defiance. I know mine would be mortified, terror, embarassment, etc.
And another thing, we were discussing education keeping our children from being STREET criminals. What the Enron executives did took education, but was motivated by pure greed and arrogance.



Posted by grannyofsix on June 16, 2008 at 2:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Weeeee I thought the same thing that you did a threat was made



Posted by ColdBeer on June 16, 2008 at 2:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Weeeee, umakebrains wasn't threatening me. She just has difficulty expressing herself (although she claims to be a highly educated person). Her view points tend to flop back and forth to extremes based on what personality she woke up with. Sometimes she’s the "strong back woman that made her own way" and sometimes she's the "bible thumping religious quack" and sometimes she's the "I can be meaner than you" woman. She'll post one day and I'll agree with her 100%, then she post again and I'm thinking what planet did this lady come from? Personally, I prefer her successful black woman personality, but that side of Cybil doesn't come out too often any more. She spends most of her time now telling people that they need jesus and I would imagine that she found my post frightening. Personally, I could care less. She is exactly the type of religious, my way or no way, nut case that I rant about. She’d rather share her home and expose her family to a born again child molester than believe that an agnostic can be a good person.



Posted by Weeeee on June 16, 2008 at 2:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeah. That's how I took it.



Posted by Weeeee on June 16, 2008 at 2:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ohhhhhhhh no. That sounds like the kind of thump I steer very clear of. CB, you and I share the same outlook on religion. I just don't understand why I can't live a full and happy life because I'm not "saved" or whatever. I'm no criminal. I do things that make me and others happy. Whatev, if I'm going to "hell" maybe we can share a cold beer. (jack and coke for me because I don't drink beer)



Posted by GeecheeBoi84 on June 16, 2008 at 2:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That wasn't a threat, it was actually a helping hand... Death is inevitable (lillies in your future), and you'd BETTER believe in the right being if you value your after-life. I don't care what y'all say or think, like pe_ce said, that correct being would be The Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost. He put it out there, whether you believe it or not is up to you, and I'll leave that at that. But what's really funny is how quick y'all took notice of a supposed "threat". People love to run their mouths on a thread, but are afraid of the physical persecution that could result from the same trash they're talking, heh...

As for "good riddance" comments, I can think of somebody who I'd be glad to say good riddance to, but that's because I KNOW THEM, and not just their rap sheet off some website. Making shot-in-the-dark comments like that DOES make you people ignorant, whether you believe so or not.



Posted by forget on June 16, 2008 at 3:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Looks like there are at least three of us that share the same views on religion. It's not that I do or don't believe, it's not what guides me and makes me do what I do and make the decisions I do. I don't begrudge anyone else their views, but in return I don't care for their thoughts and beliefs to be shoved at me. As for anyone being "saved", I'm the only one that's responsible for "saving" myself from being a person I can't be proud of.



Posted by ColdBeer on June 16, 2008 at 3:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

We're all ignorant about something geecheeboy. Nothing new there. I'm not sure how saying that we're better off without a career criminal can be ignorant, but, to each their own opinion.

As far as umakebrains' post, I didn't see it as a threat, just incoherent religious babbling. No threat, no thought, just babble.



Posted by Weeeee on June 16, 2008 at 3:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So Geechee, because I wasn't one of the ones who said "good riddance", I mustn't be ignorant. Pardon me, but that was very ignorant of you to say. You should take your judgmental attitude elsewhere. Oh, I forgot. You thumpers think you're everyone's "higher power" because you certainly can sit all high and mighty and judge them. What ever happened to judge thee less be judged? Hypocrites.



Posted by GeecheeBoi84 on June 16, 2008 at 3:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

CB, did you know Earl Rogers? I'd be more willing or empathetic to listen to letstakeawalk's opinion, b/c she's right there on the E. When I go home, I'm a couple of blocks down on Nassua, and come across a lot of people the city would be better off without. But I know these people, or at least know of them PAST a news article and website, and am not passing blind/un-educated judgment.



Posted by GeecheeBoi84 on June 16, 2008 at 3:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Weee, you can take a look at that comment too...

"You should take your judgmental attitude elsewhere. Oh, I forgot. You thumpers think you're everyone's "higher power" because you certainly can sit all high and mighty and judge them."

Even more entertaining, since you condemn me as judgmental, then turn around and throw out a judgmental statment.



Posted by Weeeee on June 16, 2008 at 3:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Where's my "judgmental statement?" What I said is clearly fact.



Posted by grannyofsix on June 16, 2008 at 3:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

people that try to push their faith on others have a problem of their own .I believe In God but i wont push it on anyone. that is my belief. also Coldbeer we all guestion God when the bad happens.and sometimes feel there is no god when horriable things happen . we all have free will we can lead a life of crime, no matter how we were raised or we can be good citizens and law abiding if you live for crime then you have to pay the piper as they say.
I hope i never have to see one of my children in this position but like cold beeer i will mourn but i also know you reap what you sow.
I was raised a Catholic but i have formal religion that i belive in only Mother EarthAnd God and i wont push that belief on anyone



Posted by TCHR on June 16, 2008 at 3:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The real victims here are Earl Roger's children. While his criminal record speaks volumes, I would hate for his innocent children to read the horrible things written about their father. Whether or not he was involved in illegal activities, he is still their father.
Three of his children attend the school where I teach. I had the pleasure of teaching his son this year. His son was by far the brightest in my class. So, no matter what their father did, please remember that his children who are old enough to use a computer and view these comments, might do just that.



Posted by ColdBeer on June 16, 2008 at 3:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

geechee, I know Earl Rogers as well as I do any other drug dealer. I know him well enough to say we're better off without him. That's not blind, uneducated judgment either. It is a jugment made based on 45 years of experience dealing with people and learning that criminals are bad news and that career criminals are dangerous to the rest of us. Let me ask you the same question in a different way.

Are we better of with Hitler dead? Are were better off with the violent leaders of the 1950's KKK dead? Are we better off with Jeffrey Dahmer dead?

You don't have to know a criminal to know that they are dangerous and that you are better off without them on the face of the Earth. Living in that area, as you said you did, I'm sure you have a better understanding of the issues taking place in that area. Criminals are criminals though. Laws are laws. The laws are no different on America St. in Charleston than they are on 17A in Summerville. I don't have to walk next to a criminal to know that they are trouble.



Posted by letstakeawalk on June 16, 2008 at 3:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

May I clarify another point? I am most certainly not a "she".



Posted by forget on June 16, 2008 at 3:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And hopefully his children are as bright as you say they are. If they are, maybe this will be a lesson they will carry with them for their whole lives. But then again, he was arrested numerous times for non payment of child support. There is also a good chance that he didn't have much of a relationship with his children.



Posted by ColdBeer on June 16, 2008 at 3:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

you only get one clarification a day letstakeawalk <lol>.



Posted by letstakeawalk on June 16, 2008 at 4:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If I were a female who slung rock, I'd be able to afford to live somewhere nicer than the East Side. Maybe a pied-a-terre below Broad... ;p



Posted by GeecheeBoi84 on June 16, 2008 at 4:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I see your point CB, but in my eyes, you can't compare the chaos of Hitler or the KKK to that of a drug dealer. If people aren't getting drugs from one person, they'll get them from the next. So is that to say if Hitler didn't exist, someone else would have performed genocide on the Jews? I'd ask the same question about the KKK, heh, but obviously there are enough people who hated/hate us enough to take up the KKK's work.

The only drugs I can look at with disdain are crack and heroin, the only two I've actually seen do damage (and prolly meth, but I've never met anyone who's used it). You have to think, what classifies a drug as being a threat? The government? People are always going to argue that they can still function under the influence of weed, that it came from the earth, yada yada... Ecstacy was even originally created as a tool for marriage counseling, and not outlawed until the mid-80s. So just because the government decides to slap a Class I brand on a substance, that turns it into Anthrax?

In the same fashion, do you find a drug dealer dangerous because they're selling dangerous products, or the person themself is dangerous? I've seen it time and time again; a lot of people would rather be doing anything else besides selling drugs. But they apply for jobs, catch strange looks like, "Are you serious??? You should be ashamed for even coming into my store", and are soon left with the option of slang, or starve.

"The laws are no different on America St. in Charleston than they are on 17A in Summerville." *Shaking my head* Heh, the laws may be the same, but they aren't implemented the same. And this inequality is seen all over, not just Charleston.



Posted by GeecheeBoi84 on June 16, 2008 at 4:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Heh, my bad, letstakeawalk



Posted by grannyofsix on June 16, 2008 at 4:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

when people put the use of drugs before paying bills or buying food for the home they are all BAD DRUGS. i wont even by my meds that are legal if my bills dont get paid first and i have insurance that pays part of it 'but I HATE ALL DRUGS AND those that DEAL IN IT ILLEGALLY



Posted by umakebrains on June 16, 2008 at 4:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sorry CB,
No threat what so ever, just a statement didn't mention religion either, I said "believe in something," And you knew exactly what I meant, judging from the post I read. I am in no way a religious freak, or bible toting bandit. In a previous post months ago I told someone they needed Jesus, it was a pun, geez don't be so hard !!



Posted by GeecheeBoi84 on June 16, 2008 at 4:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

grannyofsix, you still don't explain why you "HATE ALL DRUGS". As for people being wastrels on things besides necessities such as food and bills, that can go for anything! I know people who would rather look good in nice clothes before they pay their bills, or buy other things they don't need, before paying bills. Everyone's opinions here are all well and good, but I'm trying to figure out what guides the thoughts and perceptions that go on in this forum.



Posted by ColdBeer on June 16, 2008 at 4:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

My bad umakebrains, maybe I misunderstood. I thnk I recall more than one of your post telling people they need jesus, but I could be mistaken.



Posted by Siri on June 16, 2008 at 5:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Dear pe_ce,
Where was this outrage when jimmycrow said a rape victim wanted it? If what comes around goes around, and I believe it does, this mans karma just caught up with him. Its as simple as that. I'm sure some will miss him. Not me. I'm relieved that one more criminal is not around to threaten me and mine.
BLESSED BE



Posted by grannyofsix on June 16, 2008 at 6:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

GEECHEE to clarify why I hate drugs Not to get into a long story. But I have personally seen to many lives ruined or wasted by illeagal and sometime legal drugs and the dependencey of them.



Posted by grannyofsix on June 16, 2008 at 6:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I guess that was my only clarify huh ColdBeer



Posted by ms_lady2u on June 17, 2008 at 9:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It's whateva floats your boat,What is good for the goose, might not be good for the gander" I know that someone is truly looking out over me.I don't believe in luck either! allwoman, i had an episode similar to yours im Mcdonald's, I had to ask the young lady,if she had been drafted to work!
once again,another charge almost brought against me!! We've gots to do better!!lol



Posted by ms_lady2u on June 17, 2008 at 12:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You are so correct, these kids today will challenge you & test your faith, ok ok, I'm not going to lie, she did wear that Hi-c very well! Mcdonalds might want to change their uniform color to "orange" lol



Posted by myjess240 on June 17, 2008 at 7:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Earl Rogers is my dad and I dont appricate how people could come on here and talk bout him like that. He may have been a criminal but he was doing what he could do to survive. Someone might say that he should have gotten a job but this is what he wanted to do and it help him. He was a great father and cared for his kids as much as any other father.



Posted by honeybee78 on June 20, 2008 at 11:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I knew Earl!! He may not have been the best person according to some of you, but he was a human being. And no he may not done what was right, but he took care of his children and he was a good friend. He was someone's child and there are people out there who love him and knew him for who he really was. If you didn't know him, don't judge him. Because one day, you to will be judged. And we aren't the ones to do it.




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