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Scott win shows times changing

The Post and Courier
Thursday, June 12, 2008


Tim Scott thanked his diverse group of supporters Tuesday night. 'None of them were going to work for the black guy,' he said Wednesday. 'They were working for the cause.'

Mic Smith
The Post and Courier

Tim Scott thanked his diverse group of supporters Tuesday night. 'None of them were going to work for the black guy,' he said Wednesday. 'They were working for the cause.'

Tim Scott's victory Tuesday in the District 117 state House race marks yet another milestone in a remarkable year of historic firsts for black candidates.

Whether it was Barack Obama winning over the white vote in Iowa on his way to becoming the first black candidate to be nominated for president of a major party, or Scott's winning over white voters in Charleston and Berkeley counties to become the first black Republican to serve in Columbia since Reconstruction, times are changing.

Just last month, state Republicans marked another first by electing a black businessman from Rock Hill to serve as one of South Carolina's two national committee members.

While these events don't rewrite the intersection of race and politics, many experts say they prove that skin color isn't the determinative political force it once was.

Scott said he was proud to be the first black Republican elected to the Statehouse since Reconstruction, but he stressed that the largest message was what his accomplishment says about the party in South Carolina these days.

Scott said 97 volunteers — elderly, young voters, blacks, whites, Latinos and Filipinos — worked for him in the last 10 days of the campaign.

"This was a diverse group of people," he said. "None of them were going to work for the black guy. They were working for the cause."

South Carolina Republican Chairman Katon Dawson said Scott's victory is one sign of how the party has become more inclusive, but it's not the only one.

Last month, York County Republican Party chairman Glenn McCall became the first black from South Carolina to win a seat on the Republican National Committee. Several other black Republicans also sought state offices this year. "It's an exciting time for the Republican Party," Dawson said.

Scott's win is noteworthy because while Republicans have talked about reaching out to minority voters for years, but their efforts seldom extended beyond a news conference or press release, said Clemson University political scientist Bruce Ransom.

"This is significant, though at this point we know it's only one seat," Ransom said. "Still, you can no longer say that no black Republicans have been elected to the state Legislature in South Carolina."

Coupled with McCall's win, Ransom said the GOP outreach effort no longer can be criticized as pure rhetoric. "This is not earthshaking progress. Some might call it a token outcome, but nonetheless it is a breakthrough, and you've got to start somewhere," he said.

McCall said Scott's win and his own victory show that Republican voters aren't really concerned about race. "It's about ideas, who has the vision and can articulate that vision and get people excited about it in that party," he said. "It's putting us head and shoulders above other states in just walking the talk and engaging all people form all backgrounds into the party and our ideas."

Scott was the only one of three black Republicans to win his Statehouse primary Tuesday.

Dale C. Phillips finished last in a five-way primary for the Senate District 10 seat in Abbeville County, and Starletta Hairston of Hilton Head Island lost in the House District 123 primary.

Still, there are at least three others who have a chance to make history alongside Scott when the General Assembly reconvenes next year.

Marvin Rogers of Rock Hill, Steven M. Smith of North Charleston and Bonnie Adams of Green Pond had no primary opponents and will appear as Republicans on the ballots this fall. Smith is challenging incumbent Rep. David Mack, D-North Charleston.

The next milestone might be for a black Republican to win in a predominantly black district. Scott tried years ago but was defeated soundly by incumbent Sen. Robert Ford.

Ford, who faced his own primary battle Tuesday, said of Scott's win, "I guess he needs to be congratulated, but I didn't know nothing about that race."

Nationally, the Republican Party has had some prominent blacks, such as former Rep. J.C. Watts of Oklahoma and Sen. Edward Brooke of Massachusetts, though there are no black Republicans in Congress today.

House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn has said he doesn't expect to see a day when race won't matter in the nation's politics, but he can foresee a time when it isn't the determining factor.

The third-ranking Democrat in the U.S. House, Clyburn has celebrated Obama's historic win by noting that he is scheduled to accept the party's nomination on the 45th anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.'s "I Have a Dream Speech," a speech in which King said that he hoped that his children will live in a world where they "will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

Clyburn, whose parents identified with the Republican Party while he was growing up, also welcomed McCall's victory. "That's as it should be," he said. "I wished they would had done it years ago."

Glenn Smith contributed to this report. Reach Robert Behre at 937-5771 or at rbehre@postandcourier.com.




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This article has  94 comment(s)

Posted by Thomas1776 on June 12, 2008 at 3:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Why Barack Hussein Obama Cannot Be Trusted.

Racist Radical Pastors

Refusing to Wear American Flag

Friends with Domestic Bomber Ayres

Disowns his Church

Racist Wife

In 1991 Pledged Allegiance to the Black Value System (bet he placed his hand on his heart for this one)

Choosing not to Place Hand on Heart during National Anthem

Muslim Upbringing

Homosexual Sex Scandal

Friendship with 16 Count Convicted Felon Rezko

Citizenship and Family ties to Kenya

Endorsement from Hamas

Not Enough Political Experience

Votes Present more than Votes

Supports Killing the Unborn

Ranked #1 Tax and Spend Liberal

Campaign Promises that will Bankrupt the USA



Posted by Thomas1776 on June 12, 2008 at 4:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

In 1969, four years before McCain was set free by the NVA, Ayers and the Weather Underground brought the terroristic "Days of Rage" to Chicago.

Three years before McCain's release from captivity, future education professor Ayers exclaimed, "Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at."

One year before McCain achieved freedom, Ayers participated in a bombing of the Pentagon. Of that day, Ayers wrote: Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon. The sky was blue. The birds were singing. And the bastards were finally going to get what was coming to them.

When Obama was questioned about his relationship with Ayers during the Pennsylvania debate, his initial impulse was to try to finesse the subject, then change it: When asked why he would be friends with the likes of Weatherman Bill Ayers, Obama said: "The notion that ... me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn't make much sense."

That's a slick answer, but the problem is, Ayers and his Weatherman wife, Bernadine Dohrn, won't stop boasting about their days as Weathermen.



Posted by belovedbliff on June 12, 2008 at 5:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Thomas1776, where are your sources for your information? I would like to learn more.



Posted by moonpie on June 12, 2008 at 6:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I voted for Tim Scott too (for all those that always throw the racist label my way) not because of his skin color but because of his conservative views. Just like I'll vote for him when he runs for govenor one day. If the republicans put up say a JC Watts would they win the white house this yr? I doubt it because Barak is telling his party's voters what they want to hear and that's how the government can do more for you, take care of you, etc. All this on the backs of the middle class!



Posted by UrGatorbait on June 12, 2008 at 6:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Tim Scott is a breath of fresh air and hopefully a sign of changing of the guard of people like Thomas love.

McC doesn't wear a flag on his lapel? BFD

Hand on heart is not required but a should according to 4 USC. Read it sometime make informed comments not hysterical rabble rousing crap.

His father left him and he was given by his mother to be raised by his "average white grandparents"

McC follows Bush's policies so what? We want more of the same crap? You're obviously comfortable with the status quo like any good uber patriot so keep right on preaching the fear of outsiders that allows people to be manipulated.



Posted by wpc3iop on June 12, 2008 at 6:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

There's a lot of difference between Barack Hussein Obama and Tim Scott...



Posted by Riptide on June 12, 2008 at 7:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh,Oh, JohnQ must be getting nervous. An African American leaving the liberal plantation. This is not in the play book. Someone search for references by Karl Marx or V.I. Lenin to this problem. Maybe the liberals can marginalize Tim Scott somehow. Conservatives and capitalism are evil. The democrat party (not the party of Lincoln )is the true party for African Americans.

Well I got to go to work now so enjoy your day.



Posted by Reader on June 12, 2008 at 7:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Just disregard Thomas1776's points. They are clearly the lunatic rants of someone who would select a president based on fashion accessories like lapel pins. It is fine to disagree with Obama on the merits of what he stands for, but that sort of nonsense is absurd.

On the subject at hand, however, I think this article overplays the significance of Scott's election. Sure, he might be the first black Republican elected since the 19th century. But, the real question is this: How many blacks have run as Republicans for the Statehouse since the 19th century?

One often hears claims of racial bias in voting patterns in civil rights lawsuits against government bodies (like Charleston County a year or so ago). The fact of the matter is that white people do not vote AGAINST black; they vote FOR Republicans (more than blacks do at least). In a conservative area, it is not surprising that few blacks are elected to public office without gerrymandering or some such device. Jim Clyburn would never be elected to office, for instance, if his Congressional district were not stretched out so far. He would be voted down based on his liberal positions, not his skin color.



Posted by theronce on June 12, 2008 at 8:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It is curious that most blacks back the party that controlled the South during the days of legal slavery, led the South to secede, ended Reconstruction by taking power back from the Republicans in the 1870's, passed the Jim Crow laws, and belatedly put a Confederate battle flag on top of the top of the SC capitol in the early 1950's (so they say now) to honor the southern fallen during the War of Northern Aggression, fought the Civil Rights Act tooth and nail, and continues the their historical plantation control through economic slavery to the government.



Posted by ln1959 on June 12, 2008 at 8:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Thomas1776... I can see why your told so many time to provide source of facts. I am really confuse when it comes to you. I guess next week you will be tearing McCain down.

Maybe I need to start doing like most of the other posters in here do...Stop reading your posting.

One other things, stop trying to scare Americans.The people of America have seen through those scare tactics that the Bush group of republicans have used so well.

Back to the story at hand. Congratulation to Mr. Scott's for his accomplishment and history setting victory. I wish him well and hope that his dreams of serving the citizens of South Carolina continues without any downfalls.



Posted by Early on June 12, 2008 at 8:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I am proud of our black politicians but I sure wish the media would stop rubbing in our faces these people are black. We can see that. Tim Scott is not a color to me, he represents what I believe in.



Posted by ColdBeer on June 12, 2008 at 8:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I wonder, can the media squeeze just one more drop of juice from the race lemon?



Posted by shoebaby77 on June 12, 2008 at 8:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Right, right Thomas. McCain is the answer to all your problems. Bwahahhahahaah. You might want to research all those "facts" you received in your chain emails.



Posted by carolinadude on June 12, 2008 at 8:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Can anyone here recall a tax that Scott opposed while on county council or a tax and spend policy that was ever opposed by Scott. Is there one? Please prove me wrong. Regretably, I fear that voters have sent another tax and spend rino (republican in name only) to Columbia! Heaven help us!



Posted by captivated on June 12, 2008 at 8:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

GOBAMA GOBAMA GO!! Congratulations Tim! Keep up the good work in Cola. GOBAMA GOBAMA GO!!



Posted by Tammie on June 12, 2008 at 8:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Why can't he just have a win without him being black thrown into the mix? Most of us can see that. Nonetheless, congratulations.



Posted by drp7773 on June 12, 2008 at 8:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Race Race Race..............,Racism will not and can not end until we stop injecting color into every story. The liberal newspapers refuse to do this in order to keep a bias prgram going. How many people today wouldn't know Obama is black???? this should not come up again, he should be looked at the democratic candidate but the liberals will not let the race agenda die it's called race baiting,if he wins it's because he is black and we needed change , if he loses it's because not enough white people would vote for him again the race card.....Now Tim Scott cant even win on his name and values it has to be his race as the top story. Where are Jessie, Sharpen, Dot to avenge this wrong, oh yeah he won and the paper used the black words they need to hear...Such a two faced agenda.



Posted by CHRISJIII on June 12, 2008 at 9:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Why is it that it's the so called "Liberal" newspapers that are being blamed for race baiting? It's the conservative newspapers that do so. Get it right. Congratulations to Tim Scott but his preliminary victory is being overblown. As someone asked earlier "How many Blacks have run for state office as Republicans within the past 100 years?" That is other than Maurice Washington who's run as everything?



Posted by roseb on June 12, 2008 at 9:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

theronce
During reconstruction most blacks were republicans. Different time different party. So what is your point?



Posted by Early on June 12, 2008 at 9:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

tripsa, I don't hate bush. As a matter of fact, I'm very fond of,,,,,,,the bush!



Posted by Newt on June 12, 2008 at 9:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Trip is tippin’ again! What kind of medication have you run out of this week? Quoting Ann Coulter just proves what a nut you really are. She is a hate filled fear monger, just like you are!



Posted by sbs920 on June 12, 2008 at 9:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Does this mean Tim could put a muzzle on momma Dot and the Dot Squad NAACP. She is an absolute idiot !



Posted by theronce on June 12, 2008 at 9:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

roseb, you are not that dumb that I need to answer your question, and most posters see through your question.



Posted by scdog on June 12, 2008 at 10:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Congrats to Tim scott. This is a great accomplishment. People that are trying to link both this article to Obama and McCain are rediculous.



Posted by ColdBeer on June 12, 2008 at 10:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

In rereading this article, I've decided that this particular article is not race baiting. It IS significant and historical that we have black people running for offices and winning primaries that have not been won by black people before. One day, we'll wake up and have elections where race is not even mentioned. This is a step along that path. I'm not an Obama supporter by any stretch of imagination, but his candidacy is important and historical. I don't know much about Scott, but his election is also important and historical. I think that is the main focus of the article.

I still think that, overall, the media is pushing the race angle WAY too much.



Posted by blondjes on June 12, 2008 at 10:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

OK P & C! we know he's black!!! how many times can you say the word "black" in one article! was their a contest or something??? that being said, Congratulations for Mr. Scott on his win, he's a breath of fresh air and not afraid to step out of the box to get things done.



Posted by bkeelin on June 12, 2008 at 10:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

A lot of the facts from 1776 come from Obama's own books, are you blind liberals going to call Obama a liar for writing that about himself. Republicans have done more to help people get out of poverty than the democrat party has done in the last 30 years. Has everyone of the liberals forgotten that (Democrat) Woodrow Wilson allowed the first movie ever to be shown in the White House, and the name of it was "The Birth of a Nation". This was a racist film that denegrated blacks as less evolved than white people and the quote from the (democrat) president was "It's all so terribly true".
http://www.whitehousemuseum.org/east-win...
http://www.kentuckyexplorer.com/nonmembe...

Liberals need to wake up and smell the junk they are shovelling. When Bush took office the country was in the middle of a recession thanks to the high taxes of Bill Clinton and his short lived Democrat controlled congress. Bush cut taxes and the economy started moving again. Pelosi and the liberals get control a year and a half ago and again the economy was headed for recession but now Pres. Bush has worked to prevent that and even the Fed Chair says there is not much likelyhood of a recession. You revisionist liberals and Bush bashers better wake up before you end up being controlled by the government even more than you already are. The republicans right now have a lot of history to reread and they must relearn the truth about big gov't and the catastrophic pitfalls of the socialistic path they are on but at least they don't promote the murder of innocent unborn children like the democrats.



Posted by CHRISJIII on June 12, 2008 at 10:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Roseb: Good point. It's always good to read posts from people who actually know what they are talking about and not just spewing rhetoric that others have planted in their brains.



Posted by wlrf222 on June 12, 2008 at 10:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I have known Tim for fifteen years. He has solid values and is one of the kindest souls that I know. He wants to help people accomplish their dreams. He wants to serve his community and doesn't ask anything in return. We could not be luckier to have someone like Tim represent us. When you are with Tim's varied group of volunteers you forget that everyone has a different skin color and ethnicity. That says a lot about Tim Scott!!!



Posted by greyrider on June 12, 2008 at 10:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Tripsa, you quoting Ann Coulter actually makes me like you more. If I'm ever elected President, Ann's going to be my ambassador to the U.N. (that should tell you a lot about my opinion of the U.N.)



Posted by SCdeacinNYC on June 12, 2008 at 10:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ok people, you can't have it both ways:

Lot of you are claiming that the "liberal media" is stuffing race down our throats and race baiting but same ones of you are the first to jump on a board about illegal immigrants or some random black person that commits a crime and decides to interject race into it. Talk about Mexican and Latinos and how they are all criminals and then rant later about how black people need to do this and black people need to do that, often when the articles have nothing to do with race or history in general but rather involve individuals of a certain race or ethnicity.

You can't have it both ways, if the media is the one doing the race baiting they sure have a lot of you hook, line and sinker. IMHO, I don't think it's the case...I think the post and courier is playing to its audience, and by evidence of many of the posts on these boards ignorance related to race relations is still alive and well!



Posted by ColdBeer on June 12, 2008 at 10:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Pssst... Tripsa, JohnQ = troll



Posted by Newt on June 12, 2008 at 10:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ann Coulter is a skank! Wearing tight black dresses on the Today show to sell books, because the content cannot sell itself!
I wonder what Trip is so scared of? The big bad boogieman is a democrat? Trip, they are everywhere, they are coming to get your guns, get your freedom, get your money, get your family, get your job, get your house…..PARANOIA DEEP DESTROYER!!!! PLEEEAAAAAZZZZEEE! Get over yourself and stop being so scared of the world. The big bad boogieman democrat is a made up fear by the neo-cons and you are foolish enough to swallow the shicrap!



Posted by greyrider on June 12, 2008 at 10:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Newt, I agree with you that a person's politics should never be driven by fear, but in all honesty, I see the Democrats as the Party of Fear. The war in Iraq has gone tremendous as compared to Bush's 2001 speeches warning of a 10-20 year war. (no one seems to remember those speeches) The US economy is BY FAR the strongest economy of any nation on earth. And what do we hear from the Democrats? DOOM AND GLOOM. Worried? I'm not worried. I'm not exactly a big McCain fan, but he'll get 55-60% of the vote in November, maybe more.



Posted by greyrider on June 12, 2008 at 11:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Back to the subject of the article. Tim Scott is a very positive, upbeat, inspiring man. It's men like him that give us hope for the future of America.



Posted by Thomas1776 on June 12, 2008 at 11:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Obama supporters get angry when you slap them with the truth.

Beloved .... all the major news sources like AP, CNN, ABC, etc.

So you went to Burke, huh?



Posted by Newt on June 12, 2008 at 11:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Trippin’ - Not sure what America you live in, but my America is still FREE! I will drink, smoke, dance naked under the full moon and no one can stop me! And YES, I call it like it is and Ann Coulter deserves to be called names, she does it on a daily basis to other people!
Grey – I think the republicans are fear mongers. And don’t forget about your freedom, they are the ones listening to your phone calls and reading your e-mail. They are the ones taking away our personal freedoms a little at a time and calling it protection. They are also great at pointing to the pink elephant like gay marriage to distract the sheep from the real issues of lobbyists and insider partisan politics that keep big companies happy and step all over the middle class. If we keep going down the Bush administrations path, there will be on more middle class. Just the rich and the poor!



Posted by Thomas1776 on June 12, 2008 at 11:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Reader must be gay. He is overly obsessed and can't even push my buttons no matter how hard he tries. All I do is laugh at his homosexual advances ... .. .

Hey Reader? Take your lower lip, pull it over your head, and swallow! ROFLMAO!!!!!



Posted by Thomas1776 on June 12, 2008 at 11:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes. Now Tim Scott is truly a good man. Obama, on the the other hand, is a complete phoney.

From 'The Audacity Of Hope, "I will stand with them (Muslims) should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." - Senator Barack Hussein Obama.

"I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites" - Senator Barack Hussein Obama.

During the 20 years after the Obama's joined Rev. Wright's church in 1988 didn't he ever know that Wright

1) received his Masters Degree on an area of Islam
2) made a pilgrimage to Libya in 1994 with Louis Farrakhan and met personally with Khadafi?
3)honored Louis Farrakhan with his Lifetime Achievement Award in the end of 2007?
4)published articles in church publications by Hamas leaders like Mousa Abu Marzook?

"Anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God." James 4:4

Senator Obama has been very up front during the campaign about his Christian faith. Only God can judge his heart if indeed he has accepted Jesus Christ as his personal Lord and Savior, but based on his public statements about his faith as well as his actions, it is critical to explore what he believes and see if this man really is a Christian as he claims. What does Senator Obama believe regarding the basic tenets of the Christian faith? What does he believe about salvation?

A Christian, according to the Bible, is a person who has made the conscious choice to accept Jesus Christ as their Savior by faith and follow Him. You CANNOT be a true follower of Jesus Christ and deny the Truth of the Bible. It is inconsistent to say, " I am a Christian," yet live in rebellion to the Bible. It is apparent as you listen to Senator Obama speak about his faith, that he does NOT hold the Bible to be the inspired, inerrant Word of God, representing Absolute Truth and our final authority in all matters. Jesus said, "If you love me you will obey me," and that means His Word!

So what are Senator Obama's beliefs about the most important issue of all, how to be saved? He claims his mother rejected Christ, yet he knows she is in Heaven. He stated in a recent interview, "I believe that there are many paths to the same place." This is the damnable universalistic lie leading millions of souls to hell that there are many roads leading to God. He also said that "he doesn't know if he is going to Heaven, nor does he believe he or anyone will go to Hell." How can you claim to be a Christian, yet not believe in Heaven and Hell?



Posted by Newt on June 12, 2008 at 11:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Thomas - what was homosexual about Readers post?



Posted by Newt on June 12, 2008 at 11:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

OK Thomas you are getting just a nutty as trippin'!



Posted by orvinc on June 12, 2008 at 11:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think a lot of people have missed the point and I know the article did not do a good job pointing it out. This man won on a conservative record and initiative. White or Black it does not matter he won on his ideals not his skin color.



Posted by Newt on June 12, 2008 at 11:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Trippin' - oooohhhhh strike a nerve? Big scaridy cat, wussy, cry baby and big ole' stupid head! The best names calling I could come up with and they all fit trippin' to a tee!



Posted by Newt on June 12, 2008 at 11:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Better responses than hiding under my bed from the big bad boogieman democrats! Get a life and get a brain trippin'



Posted by Jane on June 12, 2008 at 11:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Thomas 1776 is dead on on his list of Obama. Google or Yahoo the stuff.

Get the book "Dreams from my Father". He whines about whitey throughout the book. He had about 20 pages removed when it was reprinted in 2004. So, God only knows what was in those pages.

Google of Yahoo "Raila Odinga Sharia Law" . Keep in mind Obama campaigned for this monster in Kenya.

Good article today on www.outragedpatriots.com by Debbie Schlussel.
The title "WHO IS MOHAMMED AL-CHURBAJI?: KEY AL-QAEDA TERRORIST "ABU SALIM'S" SON IS BARACK OBAMA FUNDRAISER; ISLAMIC TERRORIST "MR. MOM"

Obama is dangerous and McCain ain't so great either,but folks who love Obama please, do some research!! If after reading these articles listed above, you could still support this man...well, I just don't understand it.

www.baldwin2008.com



Posted by greyrider on June 12, 2008 at 11:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Please hear me. Like JC Watts, I am a conservative, NOT a Republican. There is a difference. Bush has done things I agree with and things I disagree with. Bush is a moderate, who sometimes leans liberal, sometimes leans conservative. I think you will see the same things from Tim Scott that we have seen from Watts. Scott is a man who is beholden to his ideology, NOT to a party. THAT is what makes him such a promising leader.

Now, everyone play nice. And Newt, I believe in freedom, but dancing naked under the moon is going a little too far.



Posted by SCdeacinNYC on June 12, 2008 at 11:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Great Jane is back with her paranoia. I think they made this website just for you Jane:

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/f...

Please pay attention to the part about his book that you LOVE to quote on here.



Posted by LowcountryMoose on June 12, 2008 at 12:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It is commendable that Scott served on Charleston County Council for thirteen years and never voted for a tax increase. He does stand for what the Republican Party used to be in terms of conservatism. He is also a great example of how someone who grew up in a working-class, single-parent family worked hard, went to college and started a successful business.

Too bad his business is in insurance. Did he put his conservative ideals into practice to fight against premium increases for his customers? As long as it's not taxes to the government, it must be alright to rape and pillage one's checking account of hard-earned money.



Posted by Newt on June 12, 2008 at 12:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

NAKED DANCING! Never too far:)



Posted by KidYendor on June 12, 2008 at 12:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

We need black conservatives who can introduce sterilization for welfare queen bills and will oppose Medicaid expansion. They will be able to do this and can't be called racists though they might be tagged Uncle Toms. If the newspapers attack the black conservatives the papers will be perceived as racist. When this happens I will know "times changing" and the liberal welfare/nanny state is in danger. Oh Happy Day! White conservative Republicans are just too wimpy to maintain heat on dismantling the welfare state. It is up to black conservatives and libertarians to get the job done.



Posted by Jane on June 12, 2008 at 12:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Paranoia SCdea? Why my dear "Raila Odinga Sharia Law" was information you gave me the other day! Don't you remember? What is paranoid about reseacrhing the facts?

Here is a direct quote from the article (thanks to you SCdea for setting me straight with Obama's first cousins actual name).

"Obama and his paternal 1st cousin Odinga, wanted to bring the whole of Kenya under Sharia law. Obama campaigned for Odinga in August of 2006, just before he filed with the US Federal Elections Commission for his presidential candidacy.

The idea was simply to have the Luo tribe, mostly Muslims, to take over Kenya from the inheritors of colonial power, the Kikuyu, and bring the country under Sharia law, kick out the Western investors in the nation that had made it one of the most stable nations in Africa, and supplant those Western investors with wealthy Arab oil money. It all failed. Then Odinga yelled election fraud, and put his Luo Islamofascists into the streets of Nairobi to “protest” by murdering, raping and maiming Kikuyu people, including the recent burning alive of a church full of Christians.

If Obama and Odinga had succeeded, the next step in the plan would be for president Obama to help Odinga consolidate his power over Kenya by international recognition and trade. That will NOT happen. Obama wanted to expand Islamofascism, and annex Kenya to Somalia and the Sudan in an Islamofascist axis.

It now makes complete sense that Barack Obama would be part of an Afrocentric, racist and anti-semitic “Christian” church in Chicago and align himself with the radical Islamist Louis Farrakhan. His loyalties are with Africa and Islam, not the United States"

Now, please folks research this yourself. Then after researching it yourself, you still don't believe it, that is your choice.



Posted by bkeelin on June 12, 2008 at 12:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Newt: "I will drink, smoke, dance naked under the full moon and no one can stop me!"

You can't smoke in just any restaurant or in any public building that you pay taxes to support, you can't buy liquor on certain days and you CAN get arrested for dancing naked under a full moon, even in your own back yard. If you are in your house where no one can see you then you can but you CANNOT dance in the open air in the nude without the risk of being arrested. You are losing your freedoms, every time a local, state or federal legislature passes a law you lose a freedom you once had. Don't have to like it, don't have to believe it but it is still true. Welcome to the future America... unless things are turned around.



Posted by Newt on June 12, 2008 at 12:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I dance naked in my back yard all the time. Maybe my neighbors either like it or are asleep:)
I know about the erosion of our freedoms, and I choice to live my life in joy and not in fear. I see it happening, I just don't embrace it.



Posted by bkeelin on June 12, 2008 at 12:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I notice that the liberals like John Q and Newt deny the facts put in front of them but they offer no evidence to refute the claims they just say "it's not true" or it's "conservative propaganda". Try using some historical evidence instead of blindly denying the truth and maybe, just maybe others may take you more seriously. If all you have is crying and whining and calling people liars, when they are providing documentation for their positions it makes you look foolish. Bring something of substance to the table and not just name calling.



Posted by SCdeacinNYC on June 12, 2008 at 12:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Jane I refuse to respond to you any more on this. I'll just refer you to your last post about Odinga where I had to bust you down factually on the real deal behind Odinga and his non-connection to Obama, and Muslims in Kenya. I'm not inclined to repeat myself to ridiculous posts. It's the equivalent of running into a brick wall over and over again...it's just painful, why keep doing it?



Posted by Yeah_I_said_it on June 12, 2008 at 12:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by SCdeacinNYC: "It's the equivalent of running into a brick wall over and over again...it's just painful, why keep doing it?"

Now that crap was funny!!!! LMAO!!!



Posted by Newt on June 12, 2008 at 12:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

http://www.fightthesmears.com
Jane and trippin' need to see the light, check out this link!

bk - PLEEAAZZEE! It is your republican party that is listening to our phone calls and reading our e-mails! Hello - pot calling the kettle! I am not a liberal or a conservative, I am a person who believes in the equality of EVERY citizen, not just the lapel pin wearing, wrap yourself in the flag hypocrites. If the republicans are so patriotic, then why do they vote against our troops at every turn! Then point to the pink elephant of gay marriage and scream about how it is going to affect other people’s marriages. Goodgogglygamoo - get over yourselves and STOP DRINKING THE KOOL AID!



Posted by CaptPete on June 12, 2008 at 1:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Tim Scott should run for US Senate in six years against Graham.



Posted by bkeelin on June 12, 2008 at 1:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The best you have to counter the claims of the abuses by the liberals over the last four decades is someone talking about Michelle Obama using the word "Whitey". Come on man, some real evidence is historical that proves something did happen, not more denials about what didn't happen. Revisionists always try to change topic or deny the truth. Give us some facts and figures that refute what tripsa was saying if you don't believe it, not just denials. I read parts of Obama's books from Amazon.com and they indicate he was raised in the largest muslim country, at a muslim school, as well as a catholic school but he was enrolled as a muslim, not a catholic. He is by no means a Christian according to the Word of God which is the true source of the definition. If he does not repent and accept Christ he will burn in Hell with his mother whom HE states turned away from Christianity and away from Christ. My gosh if "whitey" is the worst name Michelle Obama has ever called a white person I'll be totally suprised. You say you know about the erosion of our freedoms but you don't want to embrace it? Does that make it go away? Are you saying you don't want to take a stand to fight against the erosion of our freedoms?



Posted by Newt on June 12, 2008 at 1:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Bk – not sure where you are going or even if you are on a road. I am having a hard time understanding your issues.
Yes, I am doing something about the erosions, I’m voting for democrat!
Also note - that website is to fight all the fear mongering rumors running around about Obama, not just his wife.
You are just a freaky as Jane and trippin'! Go away!



Posted by Jane on June 12, 2008 at 2 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Newt, have you bothered to read any of the articles?

SCdea I'm sure you are done with me! As far as busting me down factually, the only thing inaccurate was I said his first name was Luo. You corrected that Luo is the muslim tribe Obama's first cousin belongs to and that Raila is actually his first name. I yahooed it and then acknowledged that I had gotten the first name wrong and THANKED YOU for correcting me. If not for your correction, I would never have Yahooed "Raila Odinga Sharia Law" and never would have seen the photos of Obama with him. It was because of YOU that I found out the truth about Obama.

I realize someone like you will not be swayed. You have an agenda and I am guessing you are muslim or a card carrying member of the ACLU. Either way, the destruction of this country and our Christian roots is what you seek. My goal is to try to reach people who don't really know Obama, but are voting for him because it makes them feel good to vote for a black man for president (as someone said to me the other day). These are the people I want to reach. Once they know the truth, they will be appalled at Obama. I believe it is wrong to refuse to vote for someone because they are black and it is just as wrong to vote for them because they are black. It should be about what they stand for.

As far as Michelle using the ternm "whitey" that isn't the issue. Heck, I use that term too. No, the issue is both she and her husband seem to have an undercurrent of disdain for whites in general. I find this extremely disturbing and it is NOT a quality I want in my president.



Posted by mosinfan on June 12, 2008 at 2:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Tripsa and Thomas 1776, you guys are all over it today. Your analsys is right on target.

John Q does not even look at the facts that are stated. He simply lambasts you becuase he does not agree. He will not let the truth or facts get in the way of his own leftist opinions. You cannot break through that fog. The lefties always accuse us conservatives of not thinking but they are the ones that are truly the "drones" of contemporary politics.

One clear difference between the Republicans and the defocrats is that you will notice that their are conservatives that will call out the Repubs where they are wrong (as Tripsa pointed out with Coulter). You will not see that anywhere today on the defocrat landscape. They are all lockstep no matter what asinine, marxist policies are put forth by the likes of Reid, Kennedy, Boxer, Clinton, Feinstein, Obama, and the rest of the socialist crowd.



Posted by Larz13 on June 12, 2008 at 2:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

JohnQ must have gone out for some hemp and a latte.



Posted by carlosthedwarf on June 12, 2008 at 2:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Congratulations to Tim Scott and Glenn McCall! It's great to see that times are changing but these two men were elected because of their ideas not their skin color.



Posted by beerjoy on June 12, 2008 at 2:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don’t understand how something so simple can get so out of hand.

Congratulations to Mr. Scott!!!
Like ColdBeer said, this is a historical step towards change. This is a good thing for SC!



Posted by Jane on June 12, 2008 at 2:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

carlosthedwarf, I met Glenn McCall about a month ago. He is such a nice man! Love what he stands for too!!



Posted by beerjoy on June 12, 2008 at 2:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yo 1776!

I’m not sure you are the right person to be quoting Jesus Christ.

You seem to hate way too much…

(And I don’t care for Obama either)



Posted by carolinagal on June 12, 2008 at 3:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Go Obama Go!!! No really. Go.....away.



Posted by Yeah_I_said_it on June 12, 2008 at 3:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Gimme A Break, I sure deserve it.
It's time I made it to the top.
Gimme A Break, I'm looking forward,
Get behind me, pull out every stop.

I want a happy ending, I'm tired of pretending,
Won't let 'em get the best of me.
Whoa whoa whoa,

Gimme A Break! The game is survival!
Gimme A Break, and plan my arrival!
Gimme A Break for heaven's sake!
What happened to my piece of the cake?

Gimme A Break!
Gimme A Break!
Oh Gimme A Break!
Gimme A Break!
Hey Gimme A Break!



Posted by Yeah_I_said_it on June 12, 2008 at 3:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Gimme A Break, now I know what it takes.
I'm putting a new face on the old one
Ready for anything.

Playing with fate, not a moment too late.
I'm showing the whole world
Nothing can get me down.
Woo woo hoo!

Gimme A Break,
Yeah yeah!
Gimme A Break
'Cause I sure need one!

Gimme A Break,
Yeah yeah!
I finally know where I belong.

Gimme A Break,
Yeah yeah!
Gimme A Break
'Cause I sure need one!

Gimme A Break,
Yeah yeah!
I finally know where I belong.
Gimme A Break!



Posted by Girleygirl on June 12, 2008 at 3:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

lol@ Yeah!



Posted by beerjoy on June 12, 2008 at 3:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If I had a chance to vote (can’t b/c not a citizen, yet) I would vote for McCain. He seems to be a good man and his love for his country speaks loud and clear.

But I can see how Obama may end up winning this thang. Call me crazy alright, but the fact that he’s breaking ground as an African-American will buzz big time within the left wing. Also, his empty-promise speeches sound like popular chatter to the young crowd. Not to mention all pot-smoking hippies that will vote this year just b/c America's wars. Should be a close call, but that’s my feeling…

Don’t think so?

Remember where you heard it!!



Posted by beerjoy on June 12, 2008 at 3:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I thought it was brilliant when McCain responded to Obama’s attack (Bush’s third term comment) by calling him Jimmy Carter like.

BRILLIANT!!



Posted by Jane on June 12, 2008 at 3:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

beerjoy, my concern is you just might be right.

It is interesting, when a black republican runs it is the democrats who denigrate him/her. Did you see the racist cartoons of Condoleeza Rice when Bush nominated her for Secretary of State? Sickening. Michael Steele(black republican) was running for Senator (I think that was the position) and when he would go to make speeches he'd have oreo cookies thrown at him! Who was doing it? Black democrats! That's who!!



Posted by Yeah_I_said_it on June 12, 2008 at 4:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Girleygirl,

Tell me it's not warranted though. Nell Carter said it best! I loved Nell. She was awesome.



Posted by greyrider on June 12, 2008 at 4:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Jane, trust me, we haven't heard the last of Michael Steele. It's a shame he lost because I'd take him over every Senator in Washington. Boy, would I love to see the Democrats deal with a Watts/Steele ticket someday.



Posted by Yeah_I_said_it on June 12, 2008 at 4:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Schlemile, Schlemozzle, Hausenfeffer Incorporated.
We're gonna do it.
Give us any chance we'll take it,
Leave us any rule we'll break it.
We're gonna make our dreams come true.
Doin' it our way.

Nothing's gonna turn us back now,
Straight ahead and on the track now.
We're gonna make our dreams come true.
Doin' it our way.

There's nothing we won't try.
Never heard the word im-possible.
This time, there's no stopping us-.
We're gonna do it.

On your mark, get set and go now.
Got a dream and we just know now.
We're gonna make our dreams come true.
And we'll do it our way,
Yes our way.
Make all our dreams come true.
And we'll do it our way,
Yes our way.
Make all our dreams- come true- for me and you-.



Posted by Yeah_I_said_it on June 12, 2008 at 4:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sometimes the world looks perfect,
Nothing to rearrange.
Sometimes you get a feeling
Like you need some kind of change.
No matter what the odds are this time,
Nothing's going to stand in my way.
This flame in my heart,
And a long lost friend
Gives every dark street a light at the end.
Standing tall, on the wings of my dream.
Rise and fall, on the wings of my dream.
The rain and thunder
The wind and haze
I'm bound for better days.
It's my life and my dream,
Nothing's going to stop me now.



Posted by Jane on June 12, 2008 at 4:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Greyrider, now that would be an awesome ticket!! I have heard Watts speak (on tv) and he is a great speaker, but more importantly, I like what he stands for and he gets the Islamists threat. He put it very succinctly, "Folks they (Islamists) hate your guts!"
Yes, I do believe we have not heard the last from Michael Steele!



Posted by jammer on June 12, 2008 at 4:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

what happened to the first several post to this article? they disapeared...

mine was like #2 or so

anyway I like Scott and I think he'll do an excellent job, he seems very interested in doing what's best for all of us and he's a go getter

good luck Scott!!



Posted by Yeah_I_said_it on June 12, 2008 at 4:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Now, the world don't move to the beat of just one drum,
What might be right for you, may not be right for some.
A man is born, he's a man of means.
Then along come two, they got nothing but their jeans.
But they got, Diff'rent Strokes.
It takes, Diff'rent Strokes.
It takes, Diff'rent Strokes to move the world.
Everybody's got a special kind of story
Everybody finds a way to shine,
It don't matter that you got not alot
So what,
They'll have theirs, and you'll have yours, and I'll have mine.
And together we'll be fine....
Because it takes, Diff'rent Strokes to move the world.
Yes it does.
It takes, Diff'rent Strokes to move the world.



Posted by Yeah_I_said_it on June 12, 2008 at 4:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You take the good,
You take the bad,
You take them both and there you have the facts of life.
The facts of life.

There's a time you gotta go and show
You're growin' now,
You know about the facts of life.
The facts of life.

When the world never seems,
To be living up to your dreams.
And suddenly you're finding out,
The facts of life are all about you.
All about you.
You-u-u-u,
A-ll about you.
It takes a lot to get em right,
But you're learnin the facts of life.
Learnin the facts of life.
Learnin the facts of life.
Learnin the facts of li-fe.



Posted by Yeah_I_said_it on June 12, 2008 at 4:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

We're a movin' on up,
(We're a movin on up.)
To the east side.
(Mo-vin on up.)
To a de-luxe apartment,
In the sky-.
Mo-vin' on up
(Mo-vin on up.)
To the east side,
(Mo-vin on up.)
We finally got a piece of the pie.

Fish don't fry in the kitchen,
A beans don't burn on the grill.
Took a whole lot of trying
Just to get up that hill.
Now we're up in the big leagues,
Gettin our turn at bat.
As long as we live
It's you and me baby.
There ain't nothing wrong with that.

We're a moving on up
(Mo-vin on up.)
To the east side,
(Mo-vin on up.)
To a de-luxe apartment
In the sky-.
Mo-vin on up
(Mo-vin on up.)
To the east side.
(Mo-vin on up.)
We finally got a piece of the pie-.



Posted by LowcountryMoose on June 12, 2008 at 4:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Heroes, Heroes, husky men of war
Sons of all the Heroes of the war before
We're all heroes up to our ear o's
You ask the questions
We make suggestions
That's what we're heroes for

All good Heroes love a good, big fight
Open up the bomb bays brighten up the night
We earn laurels solving your quarrels
You throw the roses
We punch the noses
That's what we're heroes for

What's a Hero do?
We're never gonna tell ya
Cause we wish we knew
That's why we Heroes are so few
We've got a slogan
from Colonel Hogan
And Colonel Hogan's a Hero too

Never flinch boys never be afraid
Heroes are not born boys Heroes all are made
Ask not why boys never say die boys
Answer the call remember we'll all be Heroes forever more



Posted by greyrider on June 12, 2008 at 4:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LOL - The NAACP probably wants reruns of the Jeffersons banned. Old George worked his butt off to get ahead. No handouts, no legislation, he earned it. Same as Tim Scott, JC Watts, Michael Steele. Hey, if we're lucky, Janice Rogers Brown will be the first black woman on the US Supreme Court.



Posted by Yeah_I_said_it on June 12, 2008 at 4:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Lowcountrymoose,

Hogan's Heroes was a good one!!!



Posted by LowcountryMoose on June 12, 2008 at 5:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Hooogannnn. I'll show you what we think of the Geneva Convention." And then Hogan heard a thick sheaf of papers being rolled tightly. Well, this is poetic, Hogan thought, just before he felt the searing pain of the Geneva Conventions being shoved into his ass. Schultz protested briefly, but Klink asked the bumbling Sergeant what he would say to any investigators.

"I see noth-ink," he exclaimed. "I see noth-ink."

Remember: Hogan's Heroes were guilty. They committed espionage. They thwarted the Germans every chance they could. The Germans in this version were being good soldiers, according to the paradigm the Bush administration has created. They were trying to stop imminent attacks on their own men. Hogan and the other prisoners wouldn't have given up any information if the niceties of the Geneva Convention had been followed, right?



Posted by beerjoy on June 12, 2008 at 5:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What is the percentage of votes vs elegible voters?

50%, 40%?

If I had to guess that number is pretty low. Too many people I know simply don't care to vote when they could.

Our generation (I'm 26) seems too indifferent...(hope I'm wrong).
Maybe it comes with age?



Posted by greyrider on June 12, 2008 at 5:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Interview at an Obama rally:
Reporter: What did you think of the Senator's speech?
Obama supporter: It was great! This guy's tremendous! This is awesome! Obama's incredible!
Reporter: What did he say?
Obama supporter: I don't know, but it sounded great!



Posted by Time4action on June 12, 2008 at 10:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I rarely notice the color of a person's skin except at the beach.

Don't want to vote for anyone in the general. Just have to decide who to vote against.



Posted by jammer on June 13, 2008 at 6:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

JohnQ many WMD's were found, several times over... it hit the news and disappeared the same day in many cases

they even found a giant stash of uranium that they spent weeks getting out of iraq, but because it wasn't enriched yet it wasn't BIG news to those trying to keep the truth down in the name of bashing Bush...

it was several tons of uranium, ricin and other chemicals that they found at different times but amazingly brushed them off as unimportant... I'm still scratching my head over all that

so yes, they found WMD... but they had already turned the page in the news by then and were on to other things, Saddam was already debunked and things were supposidly under control... no need to make a big deal out of big deals



Posted by Jane on June 13, 2008 at 8:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ONe of Saddam's generals was interviewed a few years back and he said he personally escorted two (or 3) planeloads of WMD's to Syria. He said Saddam had an agreement with Syria that if it looked like he was going to be attacked Syria would take the weapons and hide them.He had months to do so. We built up our forces for months before invading, thus giving Saddam plenty of time. My concern is where are those weapons now?

By the way, all Saddam had to do to stay in power was get rid of his WMD's in front of UN weapons inspectors. Why would he kick them out (as he did)and then secretly destroy the weapons?? That would make no sense would it??

www.operationiraqichildren.org

Check it out and see all the "bad" things our soldiers are doing over there. Bet the families of all the young women who were yanked off the streets raped and murdered by Saddam's older son are glad they are gone. Bet all the women held in rape rooms are glad they are gone. Bet all the children that Saddam had in a jail are glad they are gone. The mainstream media didn't show it, but our soldiers found a jail full of children. It was joyous to watch as our soldiers freed them and the children were running down the street with big smiles on their faces.

There was a picture a couple of months back where a bomb had been set off by a terrorist and our soldier his slowly walking down the street to find the terrorist. There is an Iraqi child holding on the the Marines shirt and following right behind the Marine. Why? He knows who the good guy is. The marine!!

Tourture having panties put on ones head (at least they got to keep their head attached), being paraded around naked does not constitute torture. Humilating? Sure! Of course, you know what 7 at of 10 American males said when they heard the female soldier put pantie on the guys head? Why 7 and of 10 men said, "You mean he didn't have to pay for that?"



Posted by Early on June 13, 2008 at 8:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm Tim Scott and I DIDN't approve this message!



Posted by Newt on June 13, 2008 at 3:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Goodgogglygamoo - what have they pumping into the watercooler? JANE & TRIPPIN' run away from the watercooler...it was placed there by (gasp) an illegal alien that supports Obama! Run, run as fast as you can!




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