Posted by whycantitbebetterhere on June 4, 2008 at 7:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Way to go NCPD!

Posted by Tammie on June 4, 2008 at 7:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm glad they caught those idiots!

Posted by ColdBeer on June 4, 2008 at 8:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If these guys are found guilty, and I feel they will be, they should all receive the death penalty.

Going to work should not involve the fear of someone pointing a gun at you.

Posted by Early on June 4, 2008 at 8:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh testicles2007, I mean test2007, what next? No problems hey? Who's your uncle tom today?

I say they are high school dropouts, maybe middle school running the streets for many years. You were correct, they are seasoned criminals, just probably started at 11 or 12.
If the justice system does not start REALLY cracking down on these punks, this will continue to the next generation and that will be our fault!

Posted by Tammie on June 4, 2008 at 8:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I hope they hurry and catch the other creep that is out there. It's sad what happened because that could have been any of us or our loved ones. I'm glad no one lost their life behind it.

Posted by Tammie on June 4, 2008 at 9:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

My bad Palmetto..haven't had breakfast yet.

Posted by lucy_fan on June 4, 2008 at 9:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh, they'll be found guilty all right. And sentenced. And be back on the streets again in no time.

Posted by ln1959 on June 4, 2008 at 10:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hmmmm...the article says they were so sophisticated in there planning. Sophisticated criminals don't get caught so soon and they know better then raping someone when your committing a crime.

Put these stupid fools on death roe for being so sophisticatedly stupid.

Posted by beth1070 on June 4, 2008 at 10:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

lucy_fan is right...they'll either be found guilty, or enter into some kind of plea bargain, and they'll be back in the community in no time. And do you think they'll be out looking for honest jobs earning an honest living??? Hale NO! We are fortunate that nobody was seriously hurt or even killed by these gutter rats, but the chances are pretty good that eventually their crimes will escalate to that point.

Posted by Test2007 on June 4, 2008 at 11:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Early - I see you're back to your immature ways but I stick by what I said on the OTHER thread. If you are not part of the solution then you are part of the problem. You talk big game but exactly what are you doing to help? If you are not helping then shut the hell up.

Two more jackasses caught? lovely. Now WTF does that have to do with me or black people as a whole?

Posted by Girleygirl on June 4, 2008 at 11:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Why are younger people robbing folks with well thought out plans? Why can't they make plans like finding a job, going to school or something. I'am so sick of these young robbers!!!

Posted by Test2007 on June 4, 2008 at 11:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Girleygirl - That actually requires them to work after the fact. That is the same question I ask about people who mix chemicals in meth labs. You will spend time mixing chemicals to produce a drug when you could be mixing chemicals at a real job and being productive.

Posted by Tammie on June 4, 2008 at noon (Suggest removal)

Test and Girley:

From my experience working with young people and being a mentor: "School is too hard." Ok, try to go to work 8 hrs a day with just skills you acquired maybe from another job and a high school diploma and try supporting a family off of $10. It's hard but anything worth having is worth working for. Like I always tell the kids, you can be the author of the greatest success story ever told, YOUR OWN.

JMO

Posted by Tammie on June 4, 2008 at 12:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sorry, forgot to put in "per hour" after $10.

Posted by GeecheeBoi84 on June 4, 2008 at 1:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Kidnapping is an automatic 10 years, so say what you will, but I don't think there's much wiggling out of that charge that they could do... And Charleston's already been cracking down on armed robberies, so yeah, they'll be gone for a good minute. I know one of the people who were caught in the last string of restaurant robberies, and he's gone for no less than 40.

Posted by Girleygirl on June 4, 2008 at 1:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Test & Tammie

I have been working since I was 17. I never got fired from a job and rarely called in. I hate it when someone says its too hard, Or they were desparate, had no other recourse or whatever the reason.
Drug dealers can do fractions, multipy with decimals, can change weight from Kilo to grams or whatever metric system they use, they have to market their product, and figure out what their profit and loss is. Same thing for robbers they can sit at a kitchen table and plan the getaway, time how long they got to do to get what they want. It's sickening!!
I work because I do not want to constantly watch my back because I am a con and a theif. I do not want my family to be embarrassed of my actions, and I have two chldren and I AM their role model.
Test- I try to figure out why would someone want to make a chemical that can blow you and everbody else up. Why would anyone want to put baking soda up their nose for a quick high, or stick a needle in their arm and they are not diabetic. I am sick of this.

Times is hard for everyone but I don't understand what a person under the age of 18 needs so bad that they can't wait or work for it

Posted by Tammie on June 4, 2008 at 1:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

There aren't too many grammar police persons around today Palmetto. Lol As long as I get the gist of what you're saying, doesn't matter to me.

Hey Geechee! *wave*

Posted by Tammie on June 4, 2008 at 1:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Working with at risk youth has surprisingly taught me a lot. The diverse backgrounds and some of the attitudes that some of their parents have about the world will amaze and disgust you at the same time. There is one young man I work with, his father (who is a career criminal) told him if you see something you want, take it. Don't work for s**t. What kind of thing is that to teach to your children? I've been working with him for some time and it's amazing how his outlook has changed and I am blessed to be a part of his growing process. He is doing very well. Not everyone wants to get involved and its unfortunate that a lot of today's youth plummet by the wayside. I was never an at risk teenager but I always wanted to make a difference with children, ALL children, no matter what color or background. Life is what you make it and the young men and woman I work with know they'd better make it a success or I'mma beat 'em like they took my last macadamia nut cookie! Lol

Posted by Early on June 4, 2008 at 1:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Test2007, I have never heard you mention anything that remotely sounds like a solution, your too busy trashing people who even bring it up. Just like yesterday, I never mentioned anything that could be taken as a racist or bigot but it's the first thing you post. I still think you suck for telling allwoman she was a uncle tom for her post. let me ask, if a uncle tom is a black person that agrees with a white persons, what is a white person that agrees with a black person?????
Maybe you just had a bad day, but you were a royal bi_ch yesterday.

Posted by Girleygirl on June 4, 2008 at 1:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Tammie and Palmetto-

Everyone on this board has misspelled something or used incorrect grammer. I think the only reason someone says something about the post is because they do not have an intelligent counterpost to your post so they have to say you spelled poo poo wrong so that makes them feel better.

Posted by Test2007 on June 4, 2008 at 1:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Girleygirl - while I can't speak for the desperation part personally, I know there are tons of things people do when they think that they have no other option. Prostitution comes to mind. How many women actually want to walk the streets? I am so lucky and thankful that I have never been in a situation where I felt that hopeless but I know I can't speak for all. I do know that these idiots right here, were not desperate. Most people who commit these kinds of crimes are not desperate.

A lot of it is that kids get things too easily these days. Work is hard? Pssh, I work 8-10 hours a day and I can tell you that what I do is child's play compared to what my grandparents had to do. Whenever I think about complaining I just remember that my behind could be in somebody's field somewhere or working at someone's house. This idea of get rich quick or getting paid doing a minimal amount of work is ridiculous. Unfortunately this way of thinking affects the younger generation more often. Sometimes people are plain old jackasses too. No matter how great a job their parents did, no matter how good or bad a school they went to, some kids are flat out hateful with no excuses.

Posted by Tammie on June 4, 2008 at 1:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And Test, I let the kids know just how easy they have it!! When I was growing up, I lived on a farm and I had to make sure the animals were fed before I went to school, went to school, came home, did my chores and had my butt in church at night. Going to church was not up for discussion, I was going unless I was deathly ill. Lol I'm speaking like I'm old but I'm only 32. Hell now, I work 8 hours a day, go to school 4 hours in the evening, mentor and do Big Sisters on the weekend and I do all of this pregnant with no complaints...except for the heat. Lol Some of our kids today act as if Planet Earth owes THEM. Newsflash...no, she doesn't.

Posted by Test2007 on June 4, 2008 at 1:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Early - You know I don't care what you think but since we're name calling. You're a jackass every day. Like I said before, I stand by all I said yesterday. If you don't know what an uncle tom is, look it up. I think SC gave a pretty good definition for it. I volunteer my time on the weekends teaching people (young and old) basic computer skills. What do you do? I can answer that. You come on the p&c board and say a whole lot of nothing minus the jugdments, generalizations, criticisms and stereotypes and then you log your happy ass off.

I would also like to remind YOU that the thread from YESTERDAY (not today)had nothing to do with race. YOU were the first poster to mention race so hell yeah you won the bigot prize that day, congratulations. Now, get over it. This is a different article, a different board and a different day.

Posted by Test2007 on June 4, 2008 at 1:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Tammie - I think a lot of it is parents wanting to give their kids what they did not have growing up. The problem with that is they forget to add boundaries to that list. My Mom raised us exactly how she was raised. She couldn't date until 16 and we couldn't. I had a curfew even AFTER I graduated from college and came home to live. I was not coming home at crazy hours in that house.

Posted by Tammie on June 4, 2008 at 2 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Test, my mom could do what she wanted to do and I didnt go on my first date until I was 18!! Lol She set a lot of boundaries for me, you don't think about that kind of thing when you're younger but as you mature, you appreciate it. I wished my great-grandparents were still around so that I can thank them for beating the snott out of me when I thought I was smarter than they were. I miss them. But when I have my son or daughter, I will instill the same values in him or her.

Now these young men (who knows what kind of background they came from) are going to grow up, probably behind bars. Sad situation, would have been nice for someone to step in and steered them on the right path.

Posted by Girleygirl on June 4, 2008 at 2:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Test- I had to use the word desparate because it's a word used so much I don't think people really know what it means.

I have never been desperate to belittle, steal, lie, or cheat anyone. I guess my morals that my old school family raised me with works.:>) I had the type of family that if you got in trouble everyone in your family knew about it, but I was also raised that if you ever need something to ask. The worst thing you do is nothing and wait until its too late.

Tammie- I envy you over that farm. I was raised in the concrete jungle up North...raised in Detroit and lived in Chicago for 10 years before moving to Chs when I was in my teens and I love the country!

Posted by Tammie on June 4, 2008 at 2:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Girley, you kill a chicken with your bare hands, slop hogs, feed rabbits, deliver calves, kill snakes AND skin them, fish, hunt, and all that fun stuff then think again my friend! Lol It taught me a lot, which is why I always teased my fiance that if something ever happened and we needed to live off the land, he'd die. Lol He's from NJ and poor baby didnt even know how to crack open a blue crab.

Posted by Girleygirl on June 4, 2008 at 2:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm jealous and scared all at the same time. I had no rpoblem with seafood.....I just watched how a couple of other folks were cracking them and started doing it on my own.

Posted by Early on June 4, 2008 at 2:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Test, I think Rev Wright has a special place in his church for you. I can picture someone like you leading the chorus.
The more I read your post the I confirm that you truly are a racist and a bigot. But, like you say, I don't care, you lose!
BTW, nice post on the other subjects but don't feel obligated since you know I'm on to you.

Posted by intown on June 4, 2008 at 2:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hi Everyone,

The young woman that was sexually assaulted is my daughter. I thank each and everyone of you for your concern and comments that two of these guys are off the streets. Hopefully number 3 will also be in jail very soon.

Stealing is one thing but when you assault, sexually assault and kidnap people you've crossed over the line and deserve the most severe punishment allowed by law (imho).

My daughter was deathfully afraid of these guys still being out there. I can't, and won't, give details because it will serve no purpose. I am thankful, and proud, of their actions; I didn't have to attend a funeral last week.

Be concerned but please don't arm chair quarterback unless you have all of the details. All of the details aren't released to the public for many reasons.

Thank you again for your care and concern and prayers.

a VERY thankful Dad

Posted by LadyTarHeel on June 4, 2008 at 2:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm glad they caught these guys! I used to work at Pizza Hut and our store was robbed this way twice while I working there. Fortunately, I had gone home for the night, but it was still very scary just knowing that something like that had happened. The article made no mention of parents....I wonder where the parents of these two are? I also wonder why they haven't dimed out their homeboy yet? I know if I was in that much trouble I'd be singing like a canary.

Posted by Test2007 on June 4, 2008 at 2:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Very true, though some survival instincts take over especially when you have kids. I see it everyday even now with people who aren't poor. Morals generally mean nothing if you don't have enough to eat. If you asked a parent if they would steal to feed their kids if they didn't have the means, a good bit of people would say yes. Some people in here as well. Luckily most of us do not have to make that choice. Thank God. I will reiterate that these fools do not fall into that category at all.

Tammie - I grew up in the country but I am glad it was not a farm but honestly I still have family members who still do the same things you did growing up. They still kill their chickens, feed the hogs (funkiest smell ever), raise cows and all that so there are folks who still do that day to day. In our house we had chores. There was always something for us to do. One summer when I was in high school we sat around with nothing to do so my mom politely signed us up to be volunteers. That started my entry into the world of volunteering. We were so mad when she did that but we grew to love it. I think all kids should have that opportunity.

Posted by Early on June 4, 2008 at 2:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

intown, I remember you posted that your daughter was involved in the robbery, sorry to learn of this incident as well. Your a very brave man with some self control. I truly believe in my heart that I would use sniper techniques and take at least two of the three out and then take my punishment. I hope your daughter will seek help if she feels she needs it. May peace come to your family.

Posted by Girleygirl on June 4, 2008 at 3:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Intown- I am happy for you and your daughter! I'm so sorry that she had to go through this but thank God she has family that is there for here.

Test- if they did not need it then they are just plain greedy and dumb. Now you are going to prison for something you really did not need.

Does anyone know how much they "earned" during these robberies?

Posted by Test2007 on June 4, 2008 at 3:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Early - I really could care less what you think. Try to stay on topic, k.

Posted by Tammie on June 4, 2008 at 3:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Intown, may God continue to bless you and your family, especially your daughter. Just continue to be there for her, you already seem to be doing a great job. I hope you all find the justice your family so rightly deserve, as well as the other victims. God Bless.

Posted by dreamer on June 4, 2008 at 4:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Intown...I am sure that your daughter's pain goes beyond anything that we could imagine. I hope that she is able to find peace, knowing that at least two of the men were caught (hopefully the other will be soon).

Posted by walleyedwoman1215 on June 5, 2008 at 5:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Early, the last sentence of your last post touched me deeply. You said what so many of us try to express to families during their grief or a crisis. Thank you!

Posted by mommydearest125 on June 5, 2008 at 8:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To all of you who believe that my son was a social deviant and uneducated you are all wrong, then you might want to question the status of all your children. My son is Joshua Monroe and he may have committed a crime in which as a mother he should be punished. maybe if you had all the facts then you would know that my son On 05/10/08 thru 5/11/08 till 4pm was with me the entire weekend for Mothers Day. By no means do I condone the behavior of my child, and I am deeply sorry that he may or wasn part of any unscrupulious activity that would infringe on anothers individuals life, but all the facts haven't been disclosed like Frankies Fun Park it was white individuals and there was only 2 people involved in that. My son is being convicted before he was even considered he may and might be innocent. Most people who throw stones have there own issues and think that casting stones makes you better. I have taught my son values and morals and I am a single mother who has worked since I was 10years old babysitting to make sure that asking for anything was not required. Charleston is a city where the community has no problem condeming the blacks for whatever they do even when innocent many mothers have lost there children on the White Mans and the White wowan who said it was a black man who did it. Don't question the character of anyones son or daughter by the way they were brought up because for you people on this clearly you don't know what the Lee Harvey Oswald you are talking about. Charleston has nothing to offer any young individual unless your "White mommas and poppas are willing to associate your children with the black population we aren't all crooks,cooks and janitors and as for the person called TAMMIE I hope if you are a mother and you child dose something criminal I hope he or she BURNS IN HELL, for the Judgement that you choose to pass on through your freedom of expression, I am a mother and he is still My Son. Overall I expected the negative in the comments when oh I forget you still burn the Cross that Jesus died on in your front yards .

Posted by mommydearest125 on June 5, 2008 at 8:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

PART II::::Oh but by the way the young that was supposedly involved as well her name is Karina and she is Puerto Rico or White as you might want to make her, played a part in the crime the one that they are blaming my son for Chuckie Cheese the tasers were in her car and as for the gun it was in Coreys room the police as just are trying to place the blame on my son, Well I am a mother and I am fighting for my sons rights weither anyone likes it or not. What HAPPENED TO The GIRL NAMED KARINA who lived with my son why isn't she in custody can you tell me why she keeps calling me and my family to tell us that she said My son wasnt involved in the robberies when she was involved and that my son was innocent and he was with her on Sunday the 25th of May these are the dates she gave me the 28th of April she brought dinner and they ate in. May 10th I was there for Mothers Day got there at 2:30pm Saturday and left on Sunday At 4:30 pm we talked my son "NEVER left the apartment" I video taped my time there on my cellphone and took pictures. that He had problems with his teeth and and I gave him is insurance cards form my JOB Not As a cook,janitor, or Crook. This is a POLITICAL TIMES AND YOUR POLICE and District Attorney will try and make even an INNOCENT MAN GUILTY to get RE-ELECTED.

Posted by Tammie on June 6, 2008 at 8:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by mommydearest125 on June 5, 2008 at 8:13 p.m

"TAMMIE I hope if you are a mother and you child dose something criminal I hope he or she BURNS IN HELL, for the Judgement that you choose to pass on through your freedom of expression, I am a mother and he is still My Son. Overall I expected the negative in the comments when oh I forget you still burn the Cross that Jesus died on in your front yards."

First of all Mommiedearest, I am not yet a mother but I will be come November. Your p.o.s son will burn in hell before my child ever will. It's not my fault your son chose a life of crime over taking education and opportunities he was more than likely given. I still say your son was an idiot and I stand by it. You hope my child rots in hell, you and yours are already living in it. And try spell check before you talk to me next time, k idiot?