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Gator-hunting bill crawls past panel

The Post and Courier
Wednesday, January 30, 2008


COLUMBIA — Gator hunting might begin this fall, if state lawmakers swallow legislation allowing some alligators to be shot without being tied off first.

A House bill on Tuesday cleared the committee where it stalled in the last session, a delay that angered some lawmakers.

The hunting bill now carries a controversial amendment to allow private owners of large tracts to shoot the reptiles, then go after them. That's in contrast to the proposed hunting permit for individual hunters, which requires tying off the alligator with a line before it is killed.

Rep. David Umphlett, R-Moncks Corner, added the amendment to help large property owners control the number of gators. Sen. Larry Grooms, R-Bonneau, who has pushed for the hunting season, said he favors Umphlett's amendment, but if it puts the bill in jeopardy, he'd want to move forward without it.

Removing alligators

Private Lands Permit (proposed):

-- Issued Sept. 1 through Oct. 15 to owners of 100 acres or more.

-- Includes the use of firearms on swimming or basking alligators.

-- Limited to alligators 4 feet or longer.

-- Requires tagging and reporting kills.

Hunting Permit (proposed):

-- Second Saturday in September to second Saturday in October.

-- Limited to alligators 4 feet or longer.

-- Does not allow shooting of unsecured alligators even on private land.

-- Requires tagging and reporting.

-- Limited number issued by lottery.

Nuisance Alligator Program:

-- Year-long.

-- Seldom includes firearms.

-- Requires tagging and reporting.

-- Designed to remove alligators that are a threat to property owners.

The legislation was spurred by reports of a large and growing number of alligators at lakes Marion and Moultrie and the Cooper River. The state Department of Natural Resources estimates that more than 100,000 alligators now roam the South Carolina coast. Waterway residents say it might be far more. Controlling the population became an urgent issue last summer when a Summerville man lost his arm to an alligator while snorkeling in Lake Moultrie.

The amendment would allow owners of 100 acres of property or more to shoot alligators in their rice paddies and other wetland areas along the waterways. It limits them to a season similar to the hunting season, requires permits and requires the owners to retrieve the alligator, tag and report it, Umphlett said.

But it takes a precise shot to kill an alligator, and the idea of shooting an alligator that hasn't been snared disturbed Ron Russell, of Gator Getter Consultants, a licensed nuisance-alligator harvester.

"Anybody who hunts alligators knows recovering a free, unshot alligator in the water is difficult at best. It's tough to recover some alligators with lines attached," he said. "An alligator just doesn't stop moving. Even shot on a bank, they'll crawl off in the water. They're pretty incredible when it comes to their survivability. It's not that hard to get a line on an alligator."

Natural Resources worked with legislators to craft the amendment, said Derrell Shipes, wildlife project chief. "There's a greater concern for safety on public waters. We're going to urge these people to be very careful, and we're going to monitor it."

Grooms said the private land provision was spurred by plantation owners who said they can't get rid of enough problem alligators with nuisance permits and worry that the proposed hunting season won't provide enough permits to do it. Under the bill, a limited number of hunting permits would be distributed by lottery.

The bill was held in the House Agriculture and Natural Resources committee, apparently a victim of wrangling over the proposed Interstate 73. But committee Chairman William Witherspoon, R-Horry, said his hesitation to move the bill was the same as Natural Resources' — he did not want hunters using firearms on public lands.

Witherspoon wants to make sure the public realizes an alligator hunter must have experience. "I don't want anyone to get hurt."

The bill could be debated on the House floor as early as Thursday, he said, and he expects broad support. It would go back to the Senate for a vote.

Reach Bo Petersen at 745-5852 or bpetersen@postandcourier.com. Reach Yvonne Wenger at ywenger@postandcourier.com or 803-799-9051.




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This article has  8 comment(s)

Posted by Hey_U_Guys on January 30, 2008 at 7:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Gator hunting? Holy Hell. Any excuse for a redneck to use a gun... UNLESS they are trying to attack you, these creatures should be left alone. Just like any other animal. Hunting is wrong unless you eat all of the meat and use the skins for something. Don't hunt for the "thrill".



Posted by Early on January 30, 2008 at 8:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey U, obviously you don’t spend any time on the water. The gators have become a problem. There is no longer any natural checks and balances with these creatures, no natural enemies. This bill is stupid, it’s not about allowing hunters to shoot gators, it’s about controlling the population. What benefit is it to the public to only allow controlling population on private land? They should do like they do when the deer become over populated in residential neighborhoods and that is to hire a contract to take the animals out, quietly, humane and without public display. The meat from these animals should be sold and donated with the profits going to the homeless shelters.



Posted by Early on January 30, 2008 at 8:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey U also meant to ask, what is a person that hunts called in our northern states? If you hunt in the south, people call you "redneck" what is the name for up north?



Posted by Hey_U_Guys on January 30, 2008 at 9 a.m. (Suggest removal)

We're over populated. Lets go ahead and start killing eachother to control our population. North Charleston has the right idea.

ANd to answer your question, I don't know what hunters are called up north.



Posted by kma71 on January 30, 2008 at 9:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

They're called rednecks too. Just ask anybody from the U.P. of Michigan.



Posted by Lakeuser on January 30, 2008 at 9:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The SCDNR has allowed the gator population to get out of control. They should have been looking at a way of removal years ago; need balance.

Would you allow a Mountain Lion to roam your subdivision ?

The "SCDNR" needs to be held accountable!



Posted by Early on January 30, 2008 at 12:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey U, been following Africa lately, seems they are doing just what you suggested. Was a documentary on 20/20 the other day on longevity, seems we are close to discovering the age gene and possibly extend live to 1000 years. Who would want that? Think we are over crowded now, wait till something like this happens.



Posted by JohnS on January 30, 2008 at 4:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Shooting on the public water. That's all you need to be awaken or have your house hit by a high powered rifle by some drunks out on the water at night. There is enough wildlife to hunt without adding the old gator.




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