S.C. voters prepare to make historyState Democratic turnout could surpass 2004 vote The Post and Courier
Saturday, January 26, 2008
The three leading Democratic presidential hopefuls spent Friday holding separate events in Charleston and across the state in one last frenzied push to rally their supporters. 
Alan Hawes Harvey Jamison (left) and Darryl Washington carry signs to a precinct clerk's car Friday at the Charleston County Election Warehouse as workers get ready for today's Democratic presidential primary. Each has struck a chord among state voters — partly because the field is as diverse as ever and includes a woman, a black man and a native son of South Carolina. At times, they have drawn crowds that have dwarfed what most Republican candidates were able to turn out, and early absentee voting figures indicated that today's turnout could smash the 290,431 who voted in the 2004 Democratic primary. That would rejuvenate the Democratic Party in a state where only one Democrat managed to win a statewide election last year, said Blease Graham, a University of South Carolina political science professor. About half of today's voters are expected to be black — South Carolina is the first test of how the candidates appeal to this important bloc of the party — and it could deliver an important win to Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, who has surged ahead in recent polls. But New York Sen. Hillary Clinton has fought hard here, bolstered by her husband and political tag-teammate, former President Bill Clinton. He made more appearances here than she has in recent days. Former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards, a native South Carolinian who won the state four years ago, has seen his recent poll numbers rise after he stayed cool in an increasingly heated Clinton-Obama exchange in Monday night's debate at Myrtle Beach. 
Alan Hawes Democratic presidential hopeful New York Sen. Hillary Clinton takes the microphone from husband, former President Bill Clinton before speaking to supporters at the Charleston Area Convention Center on Friday. Clinton Clinton began Friday in Benedict College's chapel, capping off a primary contest ripe with overtones of race and gender. Stacey Franklin Jones, dean of the School of Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics at this traditionally black college, said the state has a chance to shape history. She said she spoke as "a citizen, a woman, an African-American, a scientist, a choco-holic, a size 9 wide, and any other label you chose to use" and urged voters, specifically blacks, to look at Clinton's record. "For some of us, it may take a very, very bold step to walk into that voting booth and focus on our community's future rather than acting on pure emotion," she said. Clinton, her husband and daughter Chelsea wrapped up the day before a crowd of several hundred people at the Charleston Area Convention Center. The former president introduced his wife by calling her "the best person I have ever had a chance to vote for in 40 years as a voter." She talked affectionately about their family's car trip vacation to Charleston 25 years ago. "Now, one of the great benefits that has improved the United States highway system is my husband has been off the road since 1992. You don't have to worry about him passing you at a very high speed," she said. "We got to Charleston pretty quick." In Columbia and Charleston, she hit on familiar themes, including offering universal pre-kindergarten and health care, giving veterans better care, making college affordable and ending the Iraq war. She also said she wants to promote green energy and reduce the national debt. "The fiscal conservative party in America is the Democratic Party," she told the Charleston crowd. Clinton also campaigned in Rock Hill while the former president visited the Upstate and St. Helena Island. 
Tyrone Walker Presidential hopeful former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards speaks during his rally on the College of Charleston campus Friday, the eve of the South Carolina Democratic Primary. Edwards Edwards, a Seneca native, dropped by Columbia in the morning to try to distinguish himself from his rivals by playing up his roots and pitching himself as the "grown-up wing of the Democratic Party," a reference to his calming presence during Monday's debate. "This fighting and sniping has continued through the entire week," he said at his final stop in Charleston. "The two of them (Clinton and Obama) seemed focused on tearing each other down. I'm focused on building you up." Earlier in Columbia, Edwards also spoke for about 15 minutes about his commitment to this state and his familiarity with its people. He also addressed his support for alternative energy and green jobs and his pledge to fight the country's divide between the haves and the have-nots. At that stop, Johnnye M. Britt, a black woman born in Decatur, Ala., spoke up about segregation in today's public schools. "We hear about the problems," she said. "We live the problems. I am 72. I was born in Alabama. My parents couldn't vote. I can vote now, and I do vote. ... I plan to vote for you. I don't care what color you are. I want to know that you're going to allow these children to have an opportunity for excellent education." Edwards told Britt he would change the federal No Child Left Behind Act, work for universal pre-kindergarten and get more money into poor schools. In Charleston, he also talked about ending trade deals. "I've seen in a very personal way what these trade deals have done to the people of South Carolina," he said. "When I'm your president, we're going to have a different policy with real labor and environmental standards, and we're going to close these tax loopholes for companies that are sending jobs overseas. No more." 
Grace Beahm Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., meets with Josephine Richardson (from left), Christina Stewart, Mary Jacob McKinley and Anne Marie Crevar during a roundtable discussion on women's issues Friday in Charleston. Obama Obama began his campaign day talking with four Lowcountry women inside Jason's Deli restaurant on Savannah Highway in Charleston. The usually bustling lunchtime spot was empty except for about 75 members of the media and a few invited guests. A small crowd of Obama supporters gathered outside in the cold to cheer him as he got off his campaign bus. While Obama's campaign stops more often involve hundreds or even thousands of people interested in hearing him speak, he told the women he prefers the more low-key roundtable discussion "because it gives me a chance not just to talk but also to listen." Much of the 45-minute discussion revolved around the affordability of and access to health care, as Josephine Richardson, a James Island minister who also works with Roper Hospital, told him about how hard it is for some local elderly residents to afford their medication. Christina Stewart told Obama that her daughter's disability requires intensive physical, occupational and speech therapies — significantly more than Medicaid and the local public schools. Obama discussed his health reform plans and also emphasized the need to pay school teachers more and upgrade school quality. He also talked about how many people are feeling they're working harder but not getting ahead. He traveled to Columbia for a similar roundtable and then to Clemson and Florence. About 2,200 packed into the Kroger Center in Columbia late Friday to see his final rally before the primary. A shot of momentum Whoever wins today will get more than the biggest slice of the state's delegates. He or she also will gain precious momentum heading into their next contests Feb. 5, Super Tuesday, when 22 states will vote. Graham said South Carolina's vote won't decide things — just as last week's GOP primary didn't prove decisive. "But I think every win is important," he added. "It's almost like a sports league with a long season. Every win counts, but it's not always clear how much it counts until it gets down to the end of the season. South Carolina is important, but it's not exclusively important." The stakes for Edwards might be the highest today. "If he can't win in his home state, he might be able to run on financial campaign fumes and hold out until Feb. 5 in hopes that lightning might strike," Graham said. Edwards told The Post and Courier late Friday he is in the race to stay. Asked if he needed to finish first or second here to remain viable, he replied, "I'm going to keep going. I'm totally committed to this cause." There will be eight candidates on the ballot, but only four of them remain in the race. In addition to the three front-runners, former Alaska Sen. Mike Gravel has yet to call it quits. Unlike other states that will see little primary campaigning this year, today's vote caps more than a year of visits by Democratic candidates, rallies and three Democratic debates on South Carolina soil. Reach Robert Behre at 937-5771 or at rbehre@postandcourier.com. Reach Yvonne M. Wenger at 803-799-9051 or ywenger@postandcourier.com. |
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Posted by JEdgmon on January 26, 2008 at 12:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I have no idea why Reps are so worked up over Hillary Clinton, I have a better chance of being president than she does. First, the Republicans have focused their entire slime machine on her, thinking she's guaranteed to be the nominee. Second, blacks for some strange reason are mad at her because she dares to try and actually win a campaign against a black person. Third, both Paul and Bloomberg are probably going to run as 3rd party candidates if she does get the nomination, knowing that the accusations and race baiting will attract a lot of Democrats to their side, and therefore the united Republican slime machine will get the White House again.
Personally, I think that's whacked, because I believe the Clinton's would be best for the country right now, however, that isn't going to happen. But then again, I am also a rare person that lets God judge moral hiearchy, as he is far more qualified than me to do so, and I judge what in my opinion is best for the country. Obama will win later today in SC easily, and will probably be the party's nominee when it's all said and done.
He's going to have to get some tougher skin though, because if this little DNC battle has seriously bothered him, he ain't going to be able to deal with the Republican slime machine when they come a callin.
Posted by nurseratchet on January 26, 2008 at 2:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
HILLARY CLINTON! THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES! COME ON SOUTH CAROLINA, SHOW HER THE TRUST AND RESPECT THAT SHE HAS ALWAYS SHOWN YOU! SHE CAN AND WILL BEAT ANY REPUBLICAN THEY CAN TROT OUT THERE. THEY ARE PITIFUL....
Posted by Truth2u on January 26, 2008 at 3:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Barack Hussein Osama is a racist.
He's best friends with Minister Wright and Louis Farrakhan who blame Whites and jews for all of America's problems.
Two days after 9-11. Wright, Osama's Minister, Mentor and best friend said the attacks were deserved due to our racist policies.
One would have to be a total moron to vote for these three.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/30/us/pol...
http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=2937953
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con...
Posted by ForPnC on January 26, 2008 at 5:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I'll be first in line to cast my vote for EDWARDS!
Posted by bcunning on January 26, 2008 at 6:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I am voting for John Edwards for a couple of reasons.
1. I think he has the best chance of beating any of the republicans. He has run for President before and has learned a lot from the previous elections, including how to deal with swift boat type attacks. I think Clinton crying on the campaign trail has helped humanize her and get her more votes but against a Republican in a general election I think it will hurt her. I can just see the Republican candidate saying, "Is Hillary going to cry if she has to deal with a terrorist attack or a country trying to get nuclear weapons?" I think against Obama, a Republican candidate is going to keep saying that Obama doesn't have enough experience to run the country. I am hoping that every Democrat voting thinks about this point.
2. I think he would be tougher than Clinton or Obama on getting everyone affordable healthcare. Edwards hasn't taken money from the insurance or drug industries unlike Clinton and Obama.
Posted by bcunning on January 26, 2008 at 8:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)
A trial lawyer can not steal us blind because they need to convince a jury to get a judgment. So, if a case doesn't have merit then the jury wouldn't have sided for Edwards. Also, the jury decides how much the judgment amount should be. So, if you want to claim that trial lawyers are stealing us blind then you really need to blame everyone who has been on a jury and decided on one of these judgments.
If you want tort reform then tell me what dollar amount makes sense for a botched medical issue. For example, Edwards sued the American Red Cross three times, alleging transmission of AIDS through tainted blood products, resulting in a confidential settlement each time. If you got AIDS from donating blood then what amount of money would be the right amount for the damage done to you?
Posted by jjfnikki on January 26, 2008 at 8:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
GO HILLARY!!!!
Posted by jjfnikki on January 26, 2008 at 8:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)
SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON WILL BE A GREAT PRESIDENT.SHE CAN AND WILL BEAT THE REPUBLICANS IN NOVEMBER.
Posted by bcunning on January 26, 2008 at 8:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)
jjfnikki
I wish I agreed with you about Hillary beating the Republicans.
Posted by bcunning on January 26, 2008 at 8:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
In one of my previous comments, I said, "If you got AIDS from donating blood then what amount of money would be the right amount for the damage done to you?" I meant DONATED blood not DONATING blood.
Posted by ORnurse on January 26, 2008 at 8:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
In response to bcunning, I must respond. I am a healthcare worker, have been since 1992, when Bill and Hillary shook us all up with plans for healthcare reform. A trial lawyer worth his salt can convince a jury of anything, regardless of merit. Juries are made of people with preconceived notions and past history and ignorance. I also would like to add that the chance of acquiring HIV (or AIDS, as you mistakenly referred to it) are NIL from donating blood. Donated blood products carrying the HIV are another story.
Posted by moonpie on January 26, 2008 at 8:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)
IF I WERE A POLLSTER, IT SOUNDS LIKE FROM THESE POST THAT EDWARDS WILL SHOCK MANY AND FINISH 2ND IN FRONT OF THE GREAT HC! WOULD THAT BREAK THE WITCHES BACK?
I PRAY FOR A 3RD PARTY RUN BECAUSE NONE OF THESE IDIOTS ON EITHER SIDE DESERVE TO BE PRESIDENT.
Posted by Patrick on January 26, 2008 at 8:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Very few medical malfeasance cases make it to jury, everyone knows that.
Posted by mkhaynes on January 26, 2008 at 8:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Somebody put a sock in The Mouth of the South - I don't know what makes you think you ARE the mouth of the south, you don't represent my feelings or ideas, nor those of my friends and family.
Who do you think is morally upright? Do you think ANY politician is morally upright?? I'd like to know who you're going to vote for, who you think is going to do the moral thing ALL THE TIME. You seem to live under the delusion that we can actually elect a president who ISN'T going to bow down to the special interests or the money.
In any case, stay out of this - you're obviously not voting Democrat and are only here to spread your anti-liberal, anti-people, venom.
Posted by native1 on January 26, 2008 at 9:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
T_M_O_T_S
"I don't believe anybody who supports the murder of human babies should ever be President."
Oh, but it is okay to execute an adult human......
Often, I hear the argument: "Well, the adult is guilty of a terrible thing. The baby is innocent."
Hmmm, a true conservative lets "God" do the judging as to who get to die, right?
Posted by Hagan on January 26, 2008 at 9:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Here's your answer.
FACTCHECK.ORG Sliming Obama
January 10, 2008
Dueling chain e-mails claim he's a radical Muslim or a 'racist' Christian. Both can't be right. We find both are false.
Summary (go to the web site for the more
Posted by Hagan on January 26, 2008 at 9:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Geez, Mouth of the South sounds like he belongs to a hate group. Change your byname to bigmouth little mind
Posted by ForPnC on January 26, 2008 at 9:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I was the first in line at my Precinct to vote this morning.
Go EDWARDS, GO!
Posted by Hagan on January 26, 2008 at 9:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey truth2u, that email is old news by now. See factcheck.org, an impartial fact checking website that puts every candidate statement to the truth test. Hello, that's been debunked soundly now as false in every form of media already. Do you live in a cave or just like spreading lies.
Posted by native1 on January 26, 2008 at 9:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
TMOTS,
Biblical quotes only weaken the argument. For every quote you can post, there are others in that very same book that contradict it.
Posted by JohnS on January 26, 2008 at 9:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I figured Sen Robert Ford would back the black man. What is this fellow doing with Hillary?
Posted by native1 on January 26, 2008 at 10:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)
TMOTS,
If you reread what I wrote (see your own last post where you quote me), I ended the sentence with a question mark. It was a question. A question begs an answer (perhaps a polite one, even).
Also, if reading the Bible makes one "qualified" to make comments "like that", then I am certainly qualified. Perhaps your interpretation is different from mine.
Hmmm, sounds like the reason there is more bloodshed in the world today than all other reasons combined: RELIGION.
Posted by reasoned on January 26, 2008 at 10:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I hope our state gives Barack a chance. It's truly sad to see a tough, thoughtful candidate get brushed aside because of race. I think he's the best shot we have at getting a Democrat in the White House. Besides, if Hillary wins, it won't be because she's the best person for the job. It's because she's married to a former president. I don't see how that helps bridge the gender gap.
We know the Clintons have no integrity. Give the Obamas a chance. They're pretty close on the issues anyway.
Posted by ForPnC on January 26, 2008 at 10:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)
LOL JohnQ! Always a nice quote!
Posted by Viva_La_Revolution on January 26, 2008 at 10:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
There is no way that a person with the middle name of "hussein" will become the president of the United States.
Barrack Hussein Obama, will never happen.
Hillary not a chance!
John Edwards is our(Democratic)only chance to win.
Did you know that 25 of the 43 presidents of the United States have been lawyers.
Posted by RTC on January 26, 2008 at 10:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
There sure are alot of Republicans voting in the Democratic primary just so they can vote against Hillary.
We are screwed no matter who gets in office.
I don't have complete confidence in any of the candidates from either side.
Posted by KidYendor on January 26, 2008 at 10:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I don't like any of the top three. I like that Mr. Gravel (is that his name?) better than the others. The top three were described as celebrities instead of leaders of which I agree. The more they call for change means the liberal, socialist things we don't like in America will only get worse.
Posted by newto843 on January 26, 2008 at 10:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Just back from the precinct, two more votes for John Edwards from my household. Go Edwards go!
Posted by Earl_T_Shudders on January 26, 2008 at 10:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey JohnsS
About Sen Robert Ford with Hillary.
Didn’t you know, the slave market ain’t closed. They bought him years ago.
Posted by pavrett on January 26, 2008 at 10:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I am voting for Monica Lewinsky's ex boyfriend's wife.
Posted by onawhim on January 26, 2008 at 11:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)
As an African-American woman, I was teetering between Obama and Hillary, until she cried. How weak is that? Are we going to have to put everything on hold once a month while she gets her hormones in check? Is she going to cry everytime a combative world leader makes a nasty comment about her or poses a threat to her and her presidency? This is not who I want in office.
We need someone strong who is not afraid to face adversity. Someone who will step up to the plate and not back down and start crying. Crying does not show sympathy or caring in politics. It shows weakness.
Obama will win in South Carolina today, and he will win the Democratic presidential nomination.
The best ticket to beat the republicans in November is the Obama/Edwards ticket.
GO BARACK!!!
Posted by Test2007 on January 26, 2008 at 12:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I swear some of you (PalmettoMan,Jedgmon And Archdude) say that you all don't work for any campaign but I have sneaking suspicion that you do. You don't work for a campaign yet all I am basically seeing is "No,vote for my candidate"! I hear the same drivel on each board having to do with the election.
Strange...
Posted by Maria123 on January 26, 2008 at 12:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I have read through many of the blogs and appreciate the fact that many sound intelligent - I vote Republican - but do not claim to be a Republican - I dont like the fact that you have to be either or - I look for the best candidate (in my opinion) and I vote. I would like to suggest you all research Ron Paul. I truly believe he is the most likely to help this country economically - which is truly a huge problem presently. The US economy is in big trouble.
Why do you all think that the media is so afraid of Ron Paul (I am speaking of the Democratic and Republican media)
They do not want him because they cannot control him he is not a puppet - This country is lead by the media and their owners as well as special interest groups; Republican and Democratic. Ron Paul is the only candidate who will not be bought nor lead by his nose. I urge all the intelligent people on this site to at least hear what he has to say. Think about this: There has to be something about the fact that he is purposely left off of polls and results like winning second in Nevada and Louisiana - the media refuses to mention him.
Go to http://www.ronpaul2008.com
refuse to be a puppet and decide for yourself. Don't just be a Republican or a Democrat for namesake only.
Posted by jammer on January 26, 2008 at 12:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Edwards is the only candidate the repubs are worrying about, the other two have so many things in their closets and in wide open view that they will be buried before the real contest starts after the primaries
you people keep on making the two losers the top two and ignore your only chance, it'll help my side out... lol
just wait until the dust settles and watch the real storm hit after these primaries... the repubs seem to be destined to win again, even without a clear front runner
Vote Hitlary or Usama !!
Posted by jammer on January 26, 2008 at 12:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)
John, Ron Paul pulled out? where'd you hear that... Fred T pulled out, not Ron...
Posted by bluegreen on January 26, 2008 at 12:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
We don't need someone who wants to compromise with the Corporations. We need someone who is fighting for the people and their rights.
We won't get Health Care for All with a symbol. And we won't be creating jobs in this country, when he clearly stated he supported Free Trade and adding Peru to it. We will not solve injustices when one claims they're to busy to speak out on Jena 6, or when he refuses to protect the less unfortunate with support a Cap on Interest rates to a max 30 percent.
We will not solve Global Warming when he keeps pushing Lobbyist Backed Liquified Coal Bill and he votes and supports Nuclear Plants, because his large donor is Exelon.
Real Change on Real Issues,
Keeping the promise to America,
John Edwards
Posted by lillycollette on January 26, 2008 at 1:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I just got back from voting for JOHN EDWARDS.
Posted by bcunning on January 26, 2008 at 1:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Maria123
There are a few reasons that I won't vote for Ron Paul. I think he is right about some things such as this country going broke. So, I think he is right that the US shouldn't be keeping troops all over the world.
However, he is too extreme for me. For example, the 2nd amendment gives us the right to bar arms so he voted against an assault rifles bill. I don't think anyone has a good reason for owning assault rifles, so I think Ron Paul goes too far. Would Paul allow everyone to buy a bazooka?
I also don't like his idea of people opting out of social security. I think it is sad that some people rely on social security and that our elected representatives spend our social security savings, but I still believe social security is a needed government service. What happens if everyone opts out of social security and we have a bunch of elderly citizens without any income? I think those people are still going to need taken care of and maybe that is there fault but those people are still going to need to be taken care of by the government or someone else.
Posted by kgerloff on January 26, 2008 at 1:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Go Obama! My first time voting in SC, and I am so excited to be involved in such a close race!
Posted by soapboxcom on January 26, 2008 at 1:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I talk business with my wife. She gets/understands what I do, gives me input on things I ask her about, is there to support me on the bad days and celebrate the good days. She is bright, affable, engaging and intelligent in every respect--a Mensa member, even.
But this does NOT make her qualified to RUN my company--gives her NO hands-on experience, no "special insight" that she can claim as her own qualification to DO what it is I do for a living.
Hillary spends 20 years as a first lady (between Arkansas and Washington) and we're supposed to BUY that as experience? Ribbon cuttings and globetrotting photo ops do not a substantive policymaker make. The one cause she took on...she failed at miserably because she had the arrogance to believe that big insurance and big pharma weren't allowed a seat at the healthcare negotiating table.
She got her ass handed to her...but didn't go away empty handed--big pharma and big insurance paid her off handsomely in the late 90's...in fact, FUNDED the bulk of her carpetbagged campaign in New York.
I actually think she's done a fine job as a Senator...better than anyone could have expected. But if I hear one more yabbo claim "First Lady" is Presidential experience...then Giselle Bunchen is qualified to take Tom Brady's place as quarterback in the Super Bowl. (she's his girlfriend, after all...)
OH...and had I, or IF I, ever cheat on my wife...believe you me...she a strong enough woman to kick me to the curb, leave me behind, and exoriate me for being a lousy husband. Hillary possesses no such strength, as evidenced by two LONG TERM affairs (Flowers and Jones) plus the Oral Office incident that embarrassed the nation she so claims to love.
If she was running as the SINGLE female Senator from New York...I'd have a helluva lot more respect for her. She is politics as usual. Obama? Edwards? Perhaps these candidates represent politics we've never seen before.
And for those of you out there rooting for another 4 years under Republican leadership? Shame on you.
Posted by jjfnikki on January 26, 2008 at 2:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
OBAMA TALKS ABOUT BRINGING US TOGETHER,BUT IT SEEMS THAT HE IS ONLY DIVIDING US.HE WONT ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.THE ONLY THINGS THAT WE KNOW ABOUT OBAMA,IS THAT HE IS PLAYING DIRTY CHICAGO POLITICS AND THAT HIS NAME HAS SURFACED IN A FEDERAL CORRUPTION CASE.ALSO,HE SPOUTS ALOT OF POETRY.
Posted by G3NL3371 on January 26, 2008 at 2:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
*****Posted by ColdBeer (anonymous) on January 26, 2008 at 10:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm pretty happy with the Democratic candidates this time around. They pretty much assure that the Republican candidate, regardless of who it turns out to be, will end up winning the election.
Us Republicans had it much easier last weekend. We were able to vote on the actual issues. We didn't have to bother worrying about race and gender to decide on who we were going to vote for.
If, for some reason, all of the Republicans drop out of the race, I hope Mrs. Clinton wins. I'd love to see Monica back in the White House :)
*****
COLDBEER sounds like he would rather go back to when blacks and women couldn't even vote much less hold office!! Shame on you COLDBEER!!!
Posted by MarianneCollins on January 26, 2008 at 2:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Dirty politicians Bill and Hillary Clinton are trying to create a WHITE BACKLASH against Obama. They mention the fact that he's black at every opportunity. They keep talking about how blacks are going to "elect" Obama, ignoring the fact that men, voters under 50, Independents, disillusioned Republicans, and others have ALSO SUPPORTED OBAMA. Hillary's "base" of women even supported Obama over Hillary in Iowa, and came very close to supporting him in New Hampshire. DON'T LET THE CLINTON'S MANIPULATE YOU. Vote your conscience, no matter what color !!!
Posted by Hagan on January 26, 2008 at 2:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Big Mouth of the South-What Obama said about Reagan was that the country back then as it is now, was ready for change and Reagan tapped into that. Obama was talking strategy in that the Democrats could take the white house if Hillary doesn't blow it. Her ad and reaction was too divisive. She and Bill are too partisan. If you think we have a "do nothing" congress now because of partisan bickering, if Hillary takes the White House, it will be all out war. But perhaps I shouldn't even bother explaining that to you as it appears you're only online to aggitate.
Posted by Hagan on January 26, 2008 at 2:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)
You all should go to what All the candidates have said, including those 4 emails that are going around the country calling Obama a racist, terrorist, his church etc. It also calls Hillary on her misleading remarks about the Cheney energy bill giving tax breaks to the oil and gas companies. They had to call her on it twice because it wasn't Cheney's bill and the bill eventually increases taxes on oil and gas companies. It also goes goes a long way in supporting clean energy. It also calls Hillary on her claim that Obama's health plan leaves out 15 million people, and other stuff she said. The site is neutral and useful for people to find a candidate to support based on issues that are important to them. It also debunks the Rezko charge. I take my vote seriously, and I want to vote on the facts not a bunch of misleading political charges. Everyone should dig a little deeper when deciding who's going to lead this nation. I've learned my lesson after this Bush administration.
Posted by Hagan on January 26, 2008 at 2:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Oops. I forgot to mention the website in my last post. It's factcheck.org
Posted by Amare on January 26, 2008 at 3:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I have voted in N. Charleston for many many years and i have never been so afraid to vote before until this year. Our voting booth is normally at the minor crosby building however this year we were instructed to go to an area of town that even the police dont like to travel into. The reason for this is that the drug and crime population here are not just high...extremely high. While we were in line 2 men rode up on their bikes and took off their front tire so their bikes would not be stolen while they voted. This says something. As we were crossing the street an older woman (about 65 years old) was helping her mother out of the car and she flagged us over. She told me that she felt unsafe and asked if they could walk in with us.
We are suppose to feel safe when we vote!!!!! Many of my friends wont even go to vote because they are afraid of the area. How can this be a fair election when they place women especially older women in a crack neighborhood to vote????
This sounds more like a political tactic that is trying to bully and intimidate certain types of voters!!!!
What kind of candidate would go to this extreme????
Posted by Hagan on January 26, 2008 at 3:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Go in groups and take men with you. Don't let anyone take away your right to vote.
Posted by msplacedinsc on January 26, 2008 at 3:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
All those GOP followers who voted for the idiot who's running the country today need to apologize to those of us who didn't. No more rule of the neocons the next four years!
Posted by BlueGrits on January 26, 2008 at 5:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Another happy voter who this afternoon cast my vote for JOHN EDWARDS. Cheers people!
Posted by msplacedinsc on January 26, 2008 at 6:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
A packed church van from a local Baptist Church pulled up in fornt of the polling station this afternoon where I voted. I didn't know a republican was running on this ticket? I guess this group took their first test on how to be a liberal. Their's lives have changed for the better or they hate Hilliary that much?
Posted by melleetx on January 26, 2008 at 7:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I guess we missed the entire point, if all blacks are so mindless and simple to vote for Obama, and all of us silly women will vote for Clinton, why even debate issues? I would hope people would see how ridiculous it is for someone to ask, "Will all brunette, white men vote for Edwards?" Does anyone consider the issues? Guess not. Let's forget the war we are losing precious lives over daily, a weak economy, unaffordable higher education to some and fear of walking in certain areas. Let us remain focused on the important issues, female or male. I am offended and NOT ONE PERSON should even approach me with that stupid question!!!!
Posted by preachlove on January 26, 2008 at 8:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
JohnQ - So what? You obviously must be a race-baiter.
Posted by outrage on January 26, 2008 at 8:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
JohnQ - you voted Edwards? Interested in why you support him and the views that you like the most.
Posted by jammer on January 26, 2008 at 10:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
ColdBeer this was a fantastic victory for the repubs...
repubs - nearly 100,000 less voted in the primary this year
demo/indept - nearly 100,000 more voted this year
looks like someone helped make sure Usama won, he's easier to beat later... and our bottom of the list in education fell for it hook line and sinker
the rest of the country is a LOT smarter so we'll have to shuffle the deck much more carefully
Posted by preachlove on January 27, 2008 at 2:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Jammer - Your same tired line from the other post about the rest of the country being smarter. It's obvious you aren't very smart. Iowa overwhelmingly supported OBAMA. Since you don't want to spell his name correctly or give him any respect due to your inbred racist ways, be it known unto you, that MR. OBAMA won 95% of the white vote in IOWA. Go crawl back under your racist old ways rock.
Posted by jammer on January 27, 2008 at 7:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)
lol preachhate... I really expected more from you...
like in my other post go check the records on how this last weeks legislature was opened in iowa... with prayers from the imam on riding them of Christians and the likes
he's muslim, of course he won there...
Posted by jammer on January 27, 2008 at 7:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)
with prayers from the imam on "ridding" them of Christians and the likes