Posted by ColdBeer on January 25, 2008 at 5:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

14 and 15 year olds committing murders. I’m glad they were caught and I hope they are both charged as adults. They don't need to be back on the street in three years.
Parenting! Parenting! Parenting! Parenting!

This is getting ridicules.

Posted by SomeTruthPlease on January 25, 2008 at 6:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I want to move far, far away from here...I am disgusted that a 15 year old boy was able to get his hand on a gun, and had enough hate in his heart to gun down a man probably because he had a different lifestyle than his own. Where in the world are his parent(s)? Someone failed miserably, and I hope they find out where this punk got a gun.

Posted by mggoose2000 on January 25, 2008 at 6:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I know that we have a problem with young people having access to guns although I don't believe that having more laws restricting law abiding citizens from ownerhsip. What the majority of people are missing is that why would a kid 15 years old want to take someones' life?

SomeTruthPlease:
"Someone failed miserably, and I hope they find our where this punk got a gun".

We have all failed miserably; society has turned it's back on our children. We spoil them, bring them up in single parent homes, we are terrible role models. It all adds up to things like this.

We haven't gotten to the bottom of why yet, but no matter what the reason; children should not have so much hate in their hearts that they would want to kill!

Posted by moonpie on January 25, 2008 at 6:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

AMEN to both of your comments. Try him as an adult and before the race baters get up, YES I said the same thing for the white kid from Mt P that decided it would be "fun" to hold up some places with a toy gun.
I'd like to see his(the killers)family tree posted here too. I bet Single mom raising more than just him in public housing somewhere??

Posted by 10216340 on January 25, 2008 at 6:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

mggoose200 wrote: "We have all failed miserably; society has turned it's back on our children. We spoil them, bring them up in single parent homes, we are terrible role models. It all adds up to things like this.

We haven't gotten to the bottom of why yet, but no matter what the reason; children should not have so much hate in their hearts that they would want to kill!"

I agree with some of your comments but not all. I don't think "we" have turned our backs on "our" children. I have not although I agree that many have. And, we have gotton to the bottom of the reasons. There are many. But, the biggest are teen pregnancy, a media gone wild, gangsta worship, single-parent homes, devaluing of education, and poor parenting.

I started to add poverty to this list but decided that poverty in and of itself doesn't have to be one of the contributing factors IF we have two parents who love their kids enough to raise them properly (say NO, you can't hang with so-an-so because they are bad, etc., etc., etc.,).

Posted by suec on January 25, 2008 at 7:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It's not hate in their hearts, it's false bravado and a lack of caring about anyone but themselves.

Posted by CADguy on January 25, 2008 at 8:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Since the mention of a group of individuals were looking for him, I am going to go out on a limb and say it was a gang initiation.

It is either a hate crime, retaliation on an advancement, gang initiation, or a status killing. There has to be a reason and these are my theories.

Posted by Early on January 25, 2008 at 8:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

On the way to a record breaking year for murders.
Moonpie, what do you think the contributing factors are to the large amount of violence in Charleston and N. Charleston?

Posted by kma71 on January 25, 2008 at 8:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'll bet this kid gets less time behind bars than the kid from Mt. Pleasant.

Posted by flinsc on January 25, 2008 at 8:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Early,
Lack of caring of people about themselves and others. A generational circle of growing up in a broken system that allows people to do nothing and contribute nothing to society. And lack or constant police presence in areas of crime and violence. Until those are fixed, then people will still behave in a way that we have seen the first part of the year.

Posted by Mon_Kie on January 25, 2008 at 8:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Was Mr Simmons a licensed beautician, or was he conducting his business illegally? Was he paying taxes on his income?

Posted by charlene68 on January 25, 2008 at 8:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I just dont understand all the crime that is going on with these young people,, where are the parents? I also understand that parents have to work, especially if you are a single parent, but i do believe that appropriate arrangement should be made for your children,, i understand he is 15 and can stay by hiimself, but if there was the slightest bit of doubt or you have had rebellion problems from your teen , why would you trust them to be alone when you are working ? im not saying that is what happened here but obviously he was not under his parents control, and if he killed someone odds are he has been in problems of the sort before.. i have 3 grown kids and my son was the worlds worst with problems (thank god none with the law) but if i could not trust him to be good in school and do what he is supposed to,, Then i did not think twice about getting some family member to babysit him when I worked... It embarrased him so bad... but if you can not count on them to do what they are supposed to do in school or in the Public then how can you cant on them to do it when they are alone? especially if they have had behavioral problems in the past..... I dont know exactly how to expplain what im trying to say here.. but I hope this is a good Example. Im glad they caught him, but do think he should be tried as an adult .

Posted by uniequnough on January 25, 2008 at 8:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Just out of curiosity, Mon_Kie, What does him having a license to run his business, have to do with why he was gunned down? Do you think the 15yr old gunned him down becuase he wasn't paying taxes or because he may not have had a beautician license. I think that point is irrelevant.

Posted by Hey_U_Guys on January 25, 2008 at 9:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I wish the P&C would quit insinuating that this poor guy was gay. If he was, who cares. I really doubt that is what got him shot.

Posted by Brant on January 25, 2008 at 9:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

A 15-year old! Now I've heard everything! I guess hatred starts young these days. This kid should be tried as an adult.
Oh, ColdBeer, just FYI, the word is "ridiculous".

Posted by scnative4ever on January 25, 2008 at 9:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

mggoose2000,

don't group everyone into this as we failed miserably. There is a line drawn here on responsible parenting and non responsible. To say to the parents who raise there kids properly and produce outstanding citizens are in some way responsible for this is bs.

Early you are right, we are on a record pace in just the first month of the year. Who wants to bet another black male kills or is killed beforte the weekend is up?

Where did he get the gun. Probably from the stash that is missing from the double murder last week in which 30,000 dollars worth of stolen guns hit the street.

Did the mayor mention that last night when he was praising the chief and his worthless police officers? nope.

Posted by nochasgirl on January 25, 2008 at 9:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The article stated that the 14 yr-old convicted of murder last month was charged as a juvenile, and could be sentenced to a juvenile facility until age 21. That is 7 years for murder. A 16-yr old gets 10 years for armed robbery? Is there a big difference between age 14, 15, and 16. Why do 16 yr-olds get their pictures and names on the front page of the paper, but 14 & 15 yr-olds do not even have their name released. I don't care who you are, this is not justice.

Posted by Early on January 25, 2008 at 9:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

nochasgirl, also ask the question on why the Gadsden boys who committed the same crime as the boys from Mt P haven’t even been charged in family court. This is an outrage and if I were one of the parents of these Mt P boys, I have a really good civil lawyer involved. Yes equality is very far from our community. What do think would happen if the tables were turned?

Posted by grannyofsix on January 25, 2008 at 10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by Mon_Kie
Was Mr Simmons a licensed beautician, or was he conducting his business illegally? Was he paying taxes on his income? :

What are you trying to say Mon_Kie?

Posted by msplacedinsc on January 25, 2008 at 10:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What does going to church and God have to do with a 15 yr old gunning dowing another person? Oh boy.....how many people have killed and still attended church and believed in God? Thousands!! Please spare us the "lack of spirituality" in a person life. Call a "spade a spade", this was a hate crime but it's sad that our state government thinks everybody loves one another until politics comes up. SC has no hate crime law because we still live in the dark ages of society.

Posted by DaOne843 on January 25, 2008 at 10:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

“On the way to a record breaking year for murders.” Sad but true……..wait did I just agree with “EARLY”…I must be sleepy! Anyway, How many of us actually communicate (conversation not lecture) with these “needy” kids? How many just talk but show no actions? There is no excuse for shooting, but we can help rid this “anger/hate”.
Early….. What do you think the contributing factors are to the large amount of violence in Charleston and N. Charleston?

Early on your second post about Mt. P…I knew the real “EARLY” would show up ….I posted you back on this the other day but I guess you didn’t get it so here it is..
Mt. P vs. Other Guys...I posted "(who “are” guilty)"...and you come back with.. "let me get this straight, you say it’s Ok to rob". MAN!!! I thought you were just acting dumb..lol. They all are guilty! but Which scenario put more people in danger? That would make a larger sentence (sentence=jail time, not the one you write :)..... Now to the comment about my intelligence.....(view my comments to get the rest... sure you'll enjoy)
RIP....A.S.

Posted by buff_o_rilla on January 25, 2008 at 10:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Poor kid never had a chance,Momma probably had gangsta rap playin around him since he was born, Stimulating his thought process into thinking that the lyrics in the songs are what life is all about. All he wanted to be all his life is a thug like those written in verse so he could be admired among his peers.

Posted by forget on January 25, 2008 at 11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Like I said a couple of weeks ago, There are a whole generation of young people that are ruined. They have bought into this "thug life" and are trying to live this lifestyle. If you ask a dozen young men about 14 yrs old. what they want to be when they grow up, 9 out of 10 will answer a rapper. Shameful. When the "Gadsden 5" were being talked about, they mentioned 25 children between them. That right there is a major part of the problem. I'd like to ask how many different fathers they have. Then ask how many fathers are involved with their children. The lack of a family dynamic is the cause of most of this underage crime.
Someone said that they wanted to leave here, well, it isn't much different anywhere.

Posted by Early on January 25, 2008 at 11:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

DaOne843, sorry man, don't have time to play with your silly azz today. Or are you MS or one of your aliases?
I dont have to read your comment back to me to understand your lack in intelligence by your original post.
No comment about the amount of time difference?
Think the NAACP would be here if the tables were turned?
Purely a angry black view.
Later hoss!

Posted by tygers1231 on January 25, 2008 at 11:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I wonder if the gun he used was one from the Burgess Collection that was missing after he was murdered last week?

You can't always blame single mothers or fathers, you never know why the person is a single-parent. There are MANY single parents out there that have control of what their kids are doing and where they are at. It has everything to do with parents in general that would rather the kid "be somewhere out of their hair" instead of being in their business. I married a single father, and my step son has always been well-behaved and out of trouble because his dad would not allow anything else. He decided to divorce his wife because she decided drugs was more important and didn't want his son to grow up in that kind of lifestyle. So, to say that ALL the problems are due to single parenting, is so far from the truth. I think it all goes back to the fact that the "Gov't" needs to stop putting in our childrens mind that if your parents "SPANK" you, then it is child abuse, and parents would stop being so scared of actually punishing their children for what they do wrong, then we would see a change. When I was a child, there was never such a huge problem as we often see now. TIMES HAVE CHANGED AND I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE OLD SCHOOL!!!

Posted by KidYendor on January 25, 2008 at 11:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If this is a black on black crime we need to get the Al Sharptons here to ask the blacks not to kill blacks and demand very severe punishment and throw in some reparations as they do when whiteys are involved in this sort of incident.

Posted by Early on January 25, 2008 at 11:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Watch it Kid, you'll have the likes of DaOne843, Minority south, chief sitting bull, bankz and look at their post, they only post on issues concerning blacks in hopes to try and tag someone as a “racist” when in fact they are the most racist of all.
Daone says he is in is 20’s and married and supports his family… Well Duhone,
Welcome to the world of being a real man, a provider who sticks with his family. You win the peace prize for your efforts. Welcome to the mainstream.
What a absolute pathetic creature!!!

Posted by ColdBeer on January 25, 2008 at 11:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks Brant. As you can see by the time on my post, I hadn't had enough coffee to be trying to type :)

Posted by Hey_U_Guys on January 25, 2008 at 11:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Check this out. This is only for November 1-20 2007 in NC. http://www.northcharleston.org/client_re...

Posted by forget on January 25, 2008 at 11:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You're correct Tygers, not all single parents are raising children that are going to become a manace to society. I'm a single mother (had husband) and my child is honor roll, and involved in sports, etc. I don't accept bad behavior, and I don't make excuses for it. But alot of them blame everyone else for their and their children's shortcomings. Until they accept responsibility for their lives, and teach their children that they are responsible for their futures, it's never going to get better. School is there for them. Attend. Make an effort to learn something. They have to want to achieve something. The best way to do that is by example. They have learned the behavior from their parents. I have a feeling this is the start of a very bad couple of years for our young people. They have had this thug culture stuff thrown at them for a while, now they are putting it to use....
scary.

Posted by Hey_U_Guys on January 25, 2008 at 11:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hate Crime Stats for the state:
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2006/table13sc....

Posted by algorelost on January 25, 2008 at 11:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sounds like a hate crime to me. He obivously didn't like him.

Posted by Mon_Kie on January 25, 2008 at 12:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"What are you trying to say Mon_Kie?"

Was Mr Simmons a contributing member of society, or was he operating in the illegal underclass of Charleston?

If you are a law abiding citizen, who works at an honest job you do not end up associating with the criminal element. I worked at a job where there were benefits available for poor people. I had numerous clients come in wearing stylish fashions,gold necklaces, a bag full of fast food in one hand, and a cell phone in the other.

They also claimed to have little or no income.

This type of person thinks that they are getting over on everyone, but in reality they are associating with the criminal element, and there is inherent danger in such associations.

Posted by Hey_U_Guys on January 25, 2008 at 12:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

For all we know, these two might have never met. It could have been a random shooting.

Posted by scnative4ever on January 25, 2008 at 1:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

you can bet both parties contributed to this. I'm sure neither were upstanding citizens. Maybe if we are lucky they'll all kill each other off. the complex is nothing but a bunch of low lifes feeding off the goverment, breeding uncontrollably and smoking crack. Unfortunately the place is directly across the street from an elementary school. At one time the school, Goodwin Elementary was one of the best in Charleston County. But once your community is influxed with these people, they pull everything done. Why is it when everything turns black it turns to trash?

Posted by DaOne843 on January 25, 2008 at 1:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Early... : ) Like I said I knew you would hate that! (great…black man whos also physic, right) I'm not looking for praise but I want you to know that there are educated "blacks" coming along/out there trying for themselves and educating others in the process. But NEGATIVE always gets more attention than positive…you know, like your comments :)Better watch out you might get replaced by a “black”…if you work. Please dont get to heated about my comments, its hard to breathe under those thick "white sheets", don’t want you to pass the hell out…lol. I have to say, “people like you” do help make the ones who are trying stronger, so “Thanks Brother” or should I say “SON”..of confederate..lol By the way I’m me “DaOne” that’s it, but PEACE TO THOSE OTHER GUYS!!! KEEP LETTING HIM FEEL IT! Told you “EARLY” there are many educated blacks out there/coming along! ….shhhh…I see black people..lmao

Posted by scnative4ever on January 25, 2008 at 1:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sorry i meant to say "pull everything down". i guess i'm an uneducated racist now...hahahahhah

Posted by archdude on January 25, 2008 at 1:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It is pathetic, but not surprising. Apparently a different strategy needs to be used to deter crime such as this from continuing to happen.

As for how to try the person, regardless of color anyone (I do not care if they are 5) who willingly kills another should be tried and sentenced as an ADULT! The only reason they wouldn't be is our artificial construct of what mandates child vs adult--and that has changed drastically over time.

The fact that some think they can do the crime, get punished as a juvenile, and have their records sealed when they are 18 only helps to increase the likelihood some will commit crimes--it is essentially punishment free in some cases.

Posted by STREETWISE on January 25, 2008 at 1:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mon_kie or is it monkey, what rock did you crawl out from under or lack thier of.
first you are worried about how mr. simmons made his money (which is none of your business by the way!) then you have the nerve to say something about who he hangs out with. you are just plan ignant- you don't even get the word egnorant, "you's jus' ignant". last i checked he was taking out the trash. you do not have to be a law abiding citizen or lack thier of to do so. to bad you don't take out trash more often with your silly a$$ thought process.
no i did not know mr. simmons before you ask but he wasn't slingin' dope and he wasn't a bad person from what's being reported. furthermore he did hair on the side duh!

Posted by eyfigueroa on January 25, 2008 at 1:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

DAMMIT!!!!!!!! WTF?!?!?!?!?!? I MEAN IT WTF?!?!?!?!??! ARE YOU FREAKING SERIOUS?!?!?!??! Scnative, mon_kie, and anyone else out there who wants to blame ‘the victim’: Let’s get this straight; you are blaming the victim for his own MURDER based on what evidence? His race? His choice of occupation? His address? His apparent sexual orientation? You made me sick. I try so diligently to enter into coherent and intelligent discourse with you people and there are times that your words sicken me to the point that I just refuse to respond. But for you two to have the unmitigated gall to call this young man a criminal and somehow ‘worthy’ of this sick violent act against him makes wonder what type of evil truly lies in your heart and soul.

Monkie: how do you know that these 2 individuals associated with one another? NEWS FRICKING FLASH!!!! Not all black people know or associate with another. Another NEWS FRICKING FLASH!!!! People are murdered everyday and many aren’t criminals or associate with criminals. Many are people just like you and me living their lives and simply end up victims.

Scnative: this young man was black and lived in an economically depressed, crime ridden area, and he deserves to die? I grew up in such an area and turned out wonderful. In fact based on your asinine, insipid, ignorant views you spout on this forum I’m going to assume that YOUR intelligence level is such that I’m FAR MORE financially, educationally, and career successful than you EVER hope to be. One day you or a loved will find themselves on their back on a gurney in need of emergency medical attention and you will look into the face of a black medical professional, and if you are man/woman enough, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE say this to their face:

“PLEASE DON’T DO ANYTHING TO SAVE MY LIFE, IN CASE YOU DIDN’T KNOW, ANYTHING BLACK TURNS INTO TRASH TO INCLUDE THAT MEDICAL DEGREE/TRAINING OF YOURS”

Far be it for me to call you racist scnative, you’re just someone who has complete disdain for blacks and consider yourself and your race unequivocally & inherently superior to them.

Posted by ln1959 on January 25, 2008 at 2:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

scnative4ever, are you that naive to believe that only blacks people smoke crack. Do you watch 20/20, 60 minutes, or any of those show that give you the correct information. You and Early really need to get out of the back woods and come into the year 2007. But I just figured it out, scnative, Early and and the others that blames everything on black race, or a race other then white, do it to upset others. It just make your day, or are you truly that dang naive. Wake up. Like I said yesterday to Early, white people kill there hold family. Now speak on that....

Posted by scnative4ever on January 25, 2008 at 2:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

in1959....it's 2008, dumb ass.

Posted by eyfigueroa on January 25, 2008 at 2:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

y'all: i will not apologize for what i wrote, but the vehemence in which i did. forgive my vitriol, but i thought i was going to have a stroke after reading the posts for the this particular article. it's the same folk day after day and for me to find myself so outraged by people like raregar, scnative, moonpie and others of their ilk, tells me that i need to go home, open a heineken, grill some steaks, sit with my wonderful children and just be grateful for the Blessings that have been bestowed upon me and not allow the evil of others drag me down to their level.

so allwoman, early, archdude, hey_u, coldbeer and others (who though i may not always agree with but enjoy sparring with) forgive my temporary insanity.

by the way in1959: if that is all that scnative can respond with, truly nothing else needs to be said about or to him.

Posted by scnative4ever on January 25, 2008 at 2:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

eyfiguero, i call it like i see it. there both low lifes. they are scabs of society. now both freeloaders of society are off the streets.....just kidding. i enjoy watching how easy it is to get people like you upset and put your panties in a wad. you take life way to serious on these blogs. don't you realize this is P&C's daily entertainment. they put these stories out here to get people rowd up. i help the cause by inflicting these shallow posts. they love to see this stuff. it's sells advertising for them at your expense. this is for fun. lighten up.

Posted by scnative4ever on January 25, 2008 at 2:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

eyfiguero, i thought you to be an old english or bull girl.

Posted by STREETWISE on January 25, 2008 at 2:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sc native. evrybody isn't a crack head or a low life. you must be a true sc native that lives under a rock and uses an out house! you guessed right "U R AN UNEDUCATED RACIST SELF PROCLAIMED AND CORRECT!!."

Posted by eyfigueroa on January 25, 2008 at 2:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

:-)

Posted by scnative4ever on January 25, 2008 at 2:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

streetwise, do you know a good plumber? i need a bathroom installed so i can dfo away with the outhouse. hahahhah you people are a laugh. we are sitting here laughing our asses off at the ignorance.

Posted by STREETWISE on January 25, 2008 at 2:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

scnative take a nap and kick rocks. you are rightfully a racist and are in no position to hold judgement day for the victim. to make comments as a joke shows your low intelligence level. they need to blow the nine at nite horn and run you off the street! a little black history!

Posted by STREETWISE on January 25, 2008 at 2:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sc native your ignorance right? alot of people are in awe over your dumb ass!

Posted by Hey_U_Guys on January 25, 2008 at 2:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I like is when Ey gets all fired up!

Posted by eyfigueroa on January 25, 2008 at 2:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

man i can taste those porterhouses now. a salad made of spring greens, steamed veggies, you know what? i'm gonna splurge and do a loaded potato. hmmmmmm

my opinion? scnative cannot come up with an intelligent rebuttal, so he has to act as if it's all a joke and he and his 'supposed' cohorts are all having a friday afternoon chuckle at our expense. hmmmmm

nope, not a bull fan unless he is sliced, grilled and served on my plate.

back to the article at hand. at 15 i hope this person is tried as an adult. he won't get the death penalty due to his age but pulling a life sentence in the big house will hopefully bring some modicum of justice to Mr. Simmons' family.

Posted by scnative4ever on January 25, 2008 at 2:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

she's just another angry black person looking to discharge her anger on white people. she's no better than the gansters that are out there killing each other. why are black people so angry?

Posted by eyfigueroa on January 25, 2008 at 2:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thank you scnative. Your rapier wit (sarcasm) has once again brought laughter to my otherwise nondescript day.

hmmm angry black person? There are several words in that statement that are incorrect but I won't quibble over semantics.

ONCE AGAIN, back to the story at hand. Is there anyone knowledgeable out there that knows if South Carolina has ‘hate crime’ statutes on the books? I know it’s black on black crime, but what if the motive for killing was homophobic in nature? I’m not a proponent of hate crime legislation, we shouldn’t legislate ‘thought’ only actions.

Someone else also brought up an excellent point, what if the crime was an attempt at some sort of gang initiation? I understand that gang infiltration in this state and especially in the low country has grown exponentially over the past decade.

Posted by ln1959 on January 25, 2008 at 3:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

scnavtive4ever, thanks for calling me dumb, I was wondering how I got this Master degree anyway. Ops, must have been Affirmative action at Florida State University. Ummm.., where did you get yours....Oh and by the way, if you had made it to the year 2007, I would have said 2008..In the words of the great Homer Simpson...Duhhhhh

Posted by scnative4ever on January 25, 2008 at 3:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

it's been fun....i'm sure we will debate this issue again. i'm sure another black low life will give us a forum to debate this issue again before the weekend is out.

Is FSU going to fire Bowden?

Posted by grannyofsix on January 25, 2008 at 3:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ey we dont always agree ,BUT i was wondering when someone would blow their top Glad it was you it comes out wonderful too bad the idiots that are in here wont heed what you have said darn that menu you spouted sure sounds good :-))

Posted by eyfigueroa on January 25, 2008 at 3:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

thanks granny, i can't wait. have a most Glorious weekend. cook up something fun and relax. this forum is but a moment of time in our wonderful lives.

Posted by Girleygirl on January 25, 2008 at 3:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I stopped responding to him a long time ago when he said blacks need to raise their children the "white" way. When I asked him what was the "white" way he never responded back. That told me I was dealing with someone that is not all there.

Allwoman- that was too funny and as much as I hate the stereotypes. But I understood why you said what you said and I got a kick out of it.

Posted by beemz on January 25, 2008 at 3:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

to the family I am so sorry for your loss.
God Bless
well scnative4ever to answer your question dip stick...
i can only speak for myself and i am not angry but i do get angry at pricks like you for the racial overtones.
wow i have been gone for a while and it still have not change on this forum at all.
still have the racists, idiots, saying and writing horrible things about people.
beemz
b=beauty

Posted by beemz on January 25, 2008 at 3:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

hi ya cvs it has been awhile how have you been?

Posted by prosperous_hb on January 25, 2008 at 3:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

scnative4ever...you need to find something constructive to do. You are so full of it.

Posted by flinsc on January 25, 2008 at 3:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It is very likely that victim might be gay. I heard a report he was in a bar and asked some guy if he could push in his stool.

Posted by Girleygirl on January 25, 2008 at 3:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LOL- Where you been Flinsc.....

Posted by eyfigueroa on January 25, 2008 at 3:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

long time no see flinsc, beemz and cvs!

Posted by ColdBeer on January 25, 2008 at 4:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by allwoman (anonymous) on January 25, 2008 at 2:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

scnative: "why are black people so angry?"

The same reason white people eat each other!

Um, when did oral sex work it's way in to this???? :)

This may or may not be a hate crime. Maybe we'll find out when all of the facts are in. Personally, I'm against hate crime laws. Hate crime legislation basically says that one person's life is worth more than another. If someone shoots and kills me for my wallet, I would hope they could face the same punishment that someone gets for shooting a man because they think he's gay or of a certain race. ALL murders should be handled the same way. The guilty should be removed from the face of the earth.

Posted by datadiva on January 25, 2008 at 4:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Just saying... for "scnative"

This is a FORUM, not a BLOG

Google it, there's a difference.

Posted by Mayor on January 25, 2008 at 4:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

SCnative4ever-----You are an embarassment to this city. And, I think you'll go to hell for sure.

Posted by The_Mouth_of_the_South on January 25, 2008 at 4:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's too bad we can't execute this murderer thanks to our liberal Supreme Court.

Posted by ForPnC on January 25, 2008 at 5:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Very sad. I wish the family well and hope the pain starts to ease soon. It's going to be hard for a long time.

Posted by ticket3477 on January 25, 2008 at 5:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

DaOne...A physic is a medicine that purges...so...are you saying you are a medicine that purges?...thats interesting...and weird. Spell check.

Anyways...Ive said it before and I will say it again...BIRTH CONTROL! There needs to be some law passed that requires young girls to have a birth control like Mirena that lasts 5 years so that they cant go and have babies when they are still babies themselves. I bet this kids mom is 12-15 years older than he is. Who would seriously take their parent seriously if they were only 12-15 years older than they were? I wouldnt!

This is ridiculous. And crying racism is just pathetic. Maybe you should hold a press conference for these morons and tell them to quit feeding the stereotypes and making it difficult for you.

Posted by moonpie on January 25, 2008 at 6:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Early, I don't know what drives kids to do this. I really just don't understand it. While we here at the "post" don't always agreeas to why, we do agree this is a serious problem. And I'm baffled at how the black community leaders, political leaders, pastors and just plain ole us just stand by and watch for the most part. God help us is all I know to say, God help us!

Posted by outrage on January 25, 2008 at 6:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

eyfig- Is there anyone knowledgeable out there that knows if South Carolina has ‘hate crime’ statutes on the books?

Last I knew, SC was one of seven states that do not have hate crimes based on sexual orientation. I do believe they were getting ready to vote on one last year.

Posted by walleyedwoman1215 on January 25, 2008 at 8:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

take a nap and kick rocks?! That was hilarious!
As for hate crime statutes, Google "Matthew Shepherd" and you should find a link to states that hav enacted that legislation...

Posted by Mon_Kie on January 25, 2008 at 9:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No one is blaming the victim for the crime, but denying that victims do not ever make bad choices and put themselves in harms way is naive.

Posted by jammer on January 25, 2008 at 10:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

efy did you put and extra porterhouse on the grill for me? if you don't mind hanging out with a white dude...

take a mallet and beat some black pepper, chili pepper, garlic and mesquite marinade into it before you throw it on the grill and the whole neighborhood will be jealous

but I'm sure u have your own recipe as well

oh, about the article... my sincere condolences to the family, he really seemed like a nice person to me

unlike many of the others we hear about getting shot due to drug deals gone bad I think this was just bad luck, an opportunist behind a gun saw a chance he thought to get away with a heinous senseless crime that's cost someone's life that was loved in his area... what a shame what many are becoming

Posted by nochasgirl on January 25, 2008 at 11:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I believe that anyone who takes the life of another, does not understand the value of "life". And maybe the reason they do not understand that life is valuable, is that nobody has ever told them that "their" life is valuable. Can you imagine growing up without the love of a parent(s)? Can you imagine having nobody to care if you have been fed, if you came home, if you went to school? I think so many children who are born to "children" are suffering because there is absolutely no structure in their lives. It is a cycle that just repeats itself over and over and over. If you are a parent, whether or not you WANT to be a parent, do the RIGHT thing. Love your children. Discipline your children. Take care of your children. Break the cycle.

Posted by Chief_SittingBull on January 26, 2008 at 6:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Early,
You , of all people, speak about being a man and “racist.” How comical? You know very little about being a MAN, but I credit you with being a true practitioner of racism. Do you realize that the nasty, racist things you have said in the past are still available to the public? How has anything those of us you label as “racists” compare to the things you have said? They do not. You have proven yourself to be a racist of the most blatant kind. It has only been lately that you have become a schizophrenic racist (one minute beating your chest about your superiority and inferiority of blacks-in particular, the next crying for unity). Your problem is you have an issue with anyone who proves to have a voice that is just as loud as yours. You are a true coward. One who attempts to bully anyone you perceive as less dominant. When you feel the need to label me, be a MAN and do it when you know I am able to immediately respond to your stupidity. If I am not on the forum, it is because I do not want to be involved. Anytime you wish to spar with me, let me know. I am always up for the challenge, my "racist" brother.

Posted by Hey_U_Guys on January 26, 2008 at 6:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

EY: Check this out

Posted by Hey_U_Guys (anonymous) on January 25, 2008 at 11:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hate Crime Stats for the state:
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2006/table13sc....

Posted by Hey_U_Guys on January 26, 2008 at 6:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sorry, THIS is the correct link

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2006/table13sc....