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Long Savannah to be new urbanist

Plan to go before Charleston City Council tonight

The Post and Courier
Tuesday, April 8, 2008


Out past Bees Ferry Road, where the subdivisions of West Ashley give way to forest, developers and Charleston officials are refining plans for the equivalent of a new town.

Two development groups would join forces to create the urban center, as part of a 1,540-acre development at the end of a planned extension of the Glenn McConnell Parkway.

The developers of Long Savannah — Associated Developers Inc. and the SIM Group — control most of the acreage, but much of the town-like area would be on 287 acres adjacent to Village Green, owned by HPH Properties of Charleston.

"We're improving on what we were going to do anyway," said Charles Hipp Jr. of HPH.

One of the design firms involved, Dover, Kohl and Partners, helped create the I'On community in Mount Pleasant, and the West Ashley plan incorporates many of the same new-urbanist concepts.

"The whole concept behind new urbanism is that you have mixed uses; commercial and residential and offices and parks," Hipp said. "Rather than being a subdivision, it's more a self-contained part of Charleston."

Where I'On is 243 acres with 759 single-family homes and a small commercial area, the 287-acre HPH Properties parcel could have 1,600 housing units and 300,000 square feet of commercial and office space.

Josh Martin, director of Planning, Preservation and Economic Innovation for the city of Charleston, said the plan takes the principles of the Daniel Island development to the next level.

HPH Properties' plan

HIGH ACRES: 287

RESIDENTIAL (detached, single-family homes): 960 units

RESIDENTIAL (attached, homes and apartments): 640 units

COMMERCIAL SPACE: 225,000 square feet

OFFICE SPACE: 75,000 square feet

CIVIC SPACE: To be determined

"As a planner, you see a few proposed settlements that you honestly believe will end up in a textbook or scholarly articles," he said. "This is one of a handful of settlements in the city limits that will be published and lessons will be taught to future generations on how to implement sustainable urbanism."

Charleston City Council will first consider the Long Savannah plan tonight.

Two-thirds of the housing units could be row homes, apartments or other connected dwellings, under the proposed guidelines.

The Long Savannah property, with 1,253 acres, could have another 3,000 homes or more. The two development plans are scheduled to be considered together by the city Planning Commission on April 23, and could return to City Council for a vote in May.

It could take many years to develop the Long Savannah and HPH land, but eventually, the development could provide an alternative place to work and shop for residents of existing subdivisions, including Village Green, Shadowmoss Plantation, Hickory Hills, Grand Oaks and Hunt Club.

Long Savannah has been the focus of most public discussion because it attracted controversy early on. The development initially was opposed by the Red Top community, though an agreement was reached. The plan also calls for moving the "urban growth boundary" that was supposed to mark the end of suburban development.

If you go

Charleston City Council meets at 5 p.m. today in City Hall, 80 Broad St.

The Long Savannah developers have pledged about $15 million in public improvements, from extending the Glenn McConnell Parkway to setting aside land for schools, but millions of public dollars also have been committed, for buying Long Savannah land for new parks.

The Charleston County Park and Recreation Commission agreed last year to buy nearly 1,600 acres of the 3,000-acre Long Savannah property for $6.5 million, and Charleston agreed to buy 232 acres for $2.4 million. That leaves 1,253 acres for the development.

"The emphasis has kind of been on the Long Savannah portion," Hipp said. "Our piece has been in the city for 20 years."

"What's happening is, between now and the next couple of weeks, you will see the whole thing go through the government process."

Hipp said his company had always planned a new urbanist development.

"When we planned it many years ago, we were on the cutting edge," he said. "What we've been able to do is tag along with a much more sophisticated design team.

Reach David Slade at 937-5552 or dslade@postandcourier.com.




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This article has  8 comment(s)

Posted by Thomas1776 on April 8, 2008 at 5:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

In the meantime, traffic on I-526 and backups gets worst and worst as do more accidents with injuries and death.

Money is more important that a person's safety and their life in Charleston. Developers don't care about anybody actually. Just the all mighty green.



Posted by Thomas1776 on April 8, 2008 at 5:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Remember this well for it will be sold in a few years to none other that "Developers" >>>>>> The Charleston County Park and Recreation Commission agreed last year to buy nearly 1,600 acres of the 3,000-acre Long Savannah property for $6.5 million, and Charleston agreed to buy 232 acres for $2.4 million. That leaves 1,253 acres for the development.



Posted by Early on April 8, 2008 at 7:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I encourage all that have never been this way to go by and see it for it will soon be gone. It's a way of life that charmed the Low Country. It's two fold I guess, you cannot stop development and yet there seems to be some planning involved. The downsize is that the developers use the continuous development mode to put more houses in a smaller space and you get the "parking in the street" neighborhoods. what they haven't addressed is that the current infrastructure will not support the development. They are all two lane small roads and extended Glenn McConnell will back traffic up worse. Early morning traffic now backs up from Bees Ferry at the light all the way to the traffic light at St. Francis Hospital,,,maybe four miles. How much more can it take?



Posted by 512c on April 8, 2008 at 9:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

we don't need this.... We need lite rail...



Posted by icbmman on April 8, 2008 at 11:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

We do need light rail...but are these planners even remotely considering that the Glenn McConnell Parkway shouldn't be just an internal boulevard? If they are going to link McConnell with Long Savannah, why not extend it further east to I-95...as an additional hurricane evacuation route? Everybody is concentrated on internal roads and city-wide transportation, but nobody even mentions the possibility of using Long Savannah as a new gateway into the city of Charleston and an exit point out of it.

Additionally, they're going to put Long Savannah as the McConnell extension's destination, but widening the current highway isn't even part of the plan? What imbecilic foolishness!! The lack of foresight in the government never ceases to amaze me.



Posted by vicupstate on April 8, 2008 at 2:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Additionally, they're going to put Long Savannah as the McConnell extension's destination, but widening the current highway isn't even part of the plan? What imbecilic foolishness!! The lack of foresight in the government never ceases to amaze me.

They don't have the MONEY to widen it. The developers are paying for an extention, not to widen a highway that is already in place.



Posted by icbmman on April 8, 2008 at 3:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Then the question should be: why DON'T they have the money? Good night, SC residents pay $400-$800 per car EVERY YEAR to register/renew their vehicle tags...where is that money going!??!

This state will continue to be a 3rd-world state until it gets its act together in terms of highway funding.



Posted by dwfrance on April 8, 2008 at 9:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

hang you heads and kiss your butts goodbye...when the allmighty hurricane comes none of us are leaveing on these skimpy highways...finish 526 and take us out to 95 from charleston...use the money where its needed...developers care about the money and nothing else




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