Family of student who was raped offers reward

Posted by samadryad on August 28, 2007 at 1:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I am glad that this rape is being taken more seriously. I remember when I went to college and got raped, an officer made the comment that women shouldn't go out at night or to school at night for their own good.

I hope they put these two men into a coma

Posted by poorboy on August 28, 2007 at 6:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Rape is a henious crime. I hope they find these two quick. The young woman's "night out" surely gave these dead beats an opportunity. You have to be careful and when out in the streets of Charleston. It's not as safe as advertised. Out with friends partying there is a golden rule, Never leave the group! Please if you must go out partying have a plan and no one that goes with the group gets left behind!No driving or have a DH.
Be smart...Be safe...

Posted by chris50 on August 28, 2007 at 8:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Those "democrats" on the east side sure are a great bunch! I hope they get what they deserve.

Posted by wegwam on August 28, 2007 at 8:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

all convicted rapists deserve the death penalty. if these two are caught and found guilty, i hope they get it.

Posted by SlumberPartyGirl on August 28, 2007 at 9:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't care how safe any city is touted to be - if you are going out you SHOULD NOT be out walking by yourself after dark - there are too many weirdos, crackheads, and miscreants out there - I don't even like my daughter walking the ONE BLOCK from our home to her high school by herself.

Before anyone jumps on me for my statement - I DO NOT beleive this young lady brought this on herself - this is a horrible thing to happen to anyone. Not only do I hope these creeps get caught, I hope she is getting the help she is needs to be able to fully move forward and not let this hamper her life.

Posted by iblong2her on August 28, 2007 at 9:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Doug-
"Either we are equal or we are not. Good people ought to be armed where they will, with wits and guns and the truth. NRA KMA$$"

This is the second time this morning I have seen you make this comment.....care to explain what it means to some of us?????

Posted by halfsheli on August 28, 2007 at 9:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It's so sad when bigots feel the need to drench their comments in hatred and stupity. Nice job on the "democrats" comment. NOT!

Posted by MHA on August 28, 2007 at 10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm a firm believer that rapists should be killed, so don't take this statement as minimizing the crime, but I wonder if her parents are now offering up this huge reward partially out of guilt for not teaching their daughter better in the first place? My 18 year old daughter knows better than to walk anywhere, including our "safe" little Summerville neighborhood, by herself, day or night. People mess up though, even after being brought up to know what's right and what's wrong. It may not be a lack of teaching on the parent's part, but it does make me wonder.

Posted by taleele_e on August 28, 2007 at 10:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Has anyone ever thought that maybe she knew the guys and went with them to party and things didn't quite turn out the way she wanted it to.Maybe things got out of hand and the guys took advantage of her.It was wrong what they did to her because no woman deserves that,No MEANS No regardless of the situation,and these guys should be punished.I hope she is getting help and she has learned a lesson from this.

Posted by hawneena on August 28, 2007 at 10:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Since this young lady claims a lapse of memory, you would have to come to one of two conclusions.
1. She drank too much and passed out.
2. She was slipped something in one of her drinks.
Since she was with a group, which is the safest thing to do, it's a shame her friends didn't notice she was missing.
The problem is most all of these kids drink way too much.
Whatever happened, no one asks for or deserves to be raped.

Posted by iblong2her on August 28, 2007 at 12:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ditto to taleel_e and flyboy! I read this story over several times and each time felt like there were some very important details missing. In NO way do I condon ANY type of sexual assult on anyone...man, woman or child. But this story leaves me with a big ?????????

Posted by iblong2her on August 28, 2007 at 12:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sorry for the typos

Posted by hawneena on August 28, 2007 at 12:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

There are definitely some huge holes in this story.
As with most of the P&C posts, maybe there will be a follow up story that will shed more light on the facts.

Posted by ddavis1 on August 28, 2007 at 1:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Republicans" also live on the East Side! As a matter of fact, there are more "Republicans" than "Democrats" over there now!

My heart goes out to the rape victim, but I agree with some of you. There are deffinately some unanswered questions.

Posted by TarNFeatherEm on August 28, 2007 at 3:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ddavis1- From the URBAN DICTIONARY

Democrat: Entry # 24
African-Americans (black people)
The origins of this definition come from the fact that 95% of African-Americans are members of the Democratic Pary.

Posted by TarNFeatherEm on August 28, 2007 at 4:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I copied that from the URBAN DICTIONARY!! So, read the entire comment before you start your 2 year old name calling crap!

Posted by irked on August 28, 2007 at 4:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The responses to this heinous crime by those who live in this "fair" city are absolutly ridiculous. I cannot believe that the first thought for some of these people is to question the validity of the young girl's charge of rape. Since when did anyone, male/female, black/white, become deserving of such mistrust. The article does not charge any one race as the perpetrator, nor does it describe the girl as completely "out of her mind." Those who responded with doubts of the young woman and claims that it could somehow be her parent's fault should be ashamed. There can be no justification for this atrocity by blaming the young lady or her parents.

I cannot believe the cruel responses this article has provoked. Find something better with your time than imagining the circumstances of this girl's rape and what she could possibly have done to "provoke her attackers." Besides, anyone taking the time to read the P&C should be familiar with the paper's lack of detail and coverage of local news.

Perhaps those responding to this article should reconsider how the smoking ban is now putting people, male or female, on the streets during a highly risky time of night.

Posted by flirbs on August 28, 2007 at 5:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

irked could not have said it better. and for those of you imagining such ridiculous scenarios, i hope your comments do not make way to the victim of this crime or to her parents.

Posted by jammer on August 28, 2007 at 5:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I feel sorry for this young lady and her family... and for you and yours samadryad...

there is no way to take it back for either of you but I sure hope they catch the people responsible and that they suffer grave consequences

there is absolutely no excuse for this, it doesn't matter if or what that girl was or wasn't doing... there is no justification period

we need public stonings for people that do this, naked like they do overseas... let the family stone these guys until they bleed out of every orifice, and then some more... that'll curb some of this barbaric behavior

Posted by flirbs on August 28, 2007 at 6:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"I DO NOT believe this young lady brought this on herself - this is a horrible thing to happen to anyone..." -SlumberPartyGirl

"I'm a firm believer that rapists should be killed..." -MHA

"It was wrong what they did to her because no woman deserves that,No MEANS No regardless of the situation..." -taleele_e

"In NO way do I condone ANY type of sexual assault on anyone...man, woman or child..." -iblong2her

If we all agree that nobody deserves to endure such a crime... then how and why do the circumstances of the situation matter? They do not. These scenarios you all are creating do not provide any insight into the event. Very few people will ever know what really happened that night... the rest of us just need to lend our thoughts and support to the girl and her family.

Posted by bhippey on August 29, 2007 at 8:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think it's really sad that this family realizes that people won't step up and admit they know something without money being involved. What happened to this girl is horrible and no one should have this happen to them. Sadly, it happens all the time. Sometimes the victims don't report it, and alot of the time witnesses to the crime won't say anything.

Posted by ccfromsc on August 29, 2007 at 11:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Why is it that the statistics for rape are never posted for the City of Charleston?

Look them up. You will be not only suprised but in shock.

Posted by bhippey on August 29, 2007 at 12:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

there are plenty of bad white people here too.

Posted by ddavis1 on August 29, 2007 at 1:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

How do you know if a black person did the "rape"? No one knows who did it! There are PLENTY of white college students living on the East Side near nassau and East Bay.

Posted by bhippey on August 29, 2007 at 2:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To scnative, all crimes committed had a black person behind it.

Posted by halfsheli on August 29, 2007 at 2:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

scnative4ever --

How sad you must be...
The hatred and disdain that spews forth from your comments are enough to make anyone feel not only disgust for your bigotry, but sympathy for your obvious ignorance.

"Our blacks are bad"? Are you kidding me? Our blacks? You do know that slavery was outlawed, right? No one is our -- and certanly not your -- anything.

Posted by ddavis1 on August 29, 2007 at 3:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

YOU GO HALFSHELI! GREAT COMMENT!!!! Again, my heart goes out to her if she was raped. No one deserves to go through such a horrible crime. But I hope there are no skeletons hiding in her closet regarding this situation. The story seems a bit incomplete to me.

Posted by bhippey on August 29, 2007 at 3:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If they were truly black and she was white, maybe she yelled rape in fear that her parents, who might be racist like some people in this forum, would be pissed as all hell that she had sex with people outside her race. Just a thought. Or maybe it really WAS rape.

Posted by MinoritySouth on August 29, 2007 at 3:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have not read all of the comments so I am not sure if this has been said already but how can anyone be sure that a rape occurred if the victim has no recollection of what happened other than the description in the article. This reward seems almost a moot attempt.

Lesson to be learned; keep your drink in your hand in a public setting (I am male and take my beer to the restroom, slackness I know.. but sometimes I just have to go and I don't want to end up face down at the ladson rest stop..), don't drink in public if you have the tendency to forget what happenned or black out, and stay within site of your friends especially when outside of the establishment...

Posted by ddavis1 on August 29, 2007 at 3:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

My thoughts exactly bhippey. You hit the nail right on the head!

Posted by ddavis1 on August 29, 2007 at 3:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You are so right MinoritySouth. This is a evil world we are living in today. They are targeting Men, Women, children, Black & White! You have to be aware of your surroundings at all times!

Posted by MinoritySouth on August 29, 2007 at 4:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Posted by scnative4ever. bhippey, according to the crime committed stats, blacks are doing about 90% of the violent crime."
Well SCnative4ever, since you went there, I have a stat that says "A February 1997 report on rape and sexual-based crime published by the United States Department of Justice stated that of the crimes surveyed, 56% of arrests were Caucasian (including Hispanics), 42% were African American, and 2% were of other races." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_cr...

Now what??? Exactly.. The stat means little in terms of race. Given similar circumstances, social/economic, we are all the same generally given a large sample of people. However, let me see how you would fair living in poverty within a culture that took 400 years to begin to accept you simply because of the color of you and your ancestor's skin or in these times not hired because you speak differently though if your broken English is European in nature or anything besides Urban Black and your skin is white or tan it is considered cute. You really don't have a clue about that experience. Just as I have no idea what it is like to be a homogenous member of the majority and all the privileges that go along with that(I have an idea though, my girlfriend is white, you should see the stuff she gets away with, man that makes certain things for me much easier). To be seen as a fellow citizen first and my ethic heritage as relevant as the color of my eyes or that second toe that is longer than the big one...

Posted by jammer on August 29, 2007 at 6:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

MS you don't have a clue about slavery either, none of us were alive then so how about getting over it... it's a moot point in today's world, too many still try to use that excuse for something that happened hundreds of years ago

strickly numbers...

if 12% of a population commits 42% of the crime how many percent of that race are criminals? manyyyyyy

and if 65% of the population commits 56% of the crime how many people in that race is that? very few...

that report was 10 yrs ago, that's not exactly a good current report to go by
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prayers for the young lady and her family, no matter what race was involved

Posted by MinoritySouth on August 30, 2007 at 8:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I take offense to statements that make comparisons, when my American experience is completely different from 'most' Non-minority's experience, like comparing apples and oranges... Ah J, interesting stat, "in 1960, 11 percent of black workers were in professional and technical and craft worker positions;". In 1960 my parents were around 20 years old or so. Given that stat, what were their odds of living the "American Dream" in comparison to a non-minority member. I know people like you love to over simplify things. I have heard it countless times "I didn't own any slaves etc, etc." but life is not that simple. Everything is interdependent and related. For example, if this woman was truly raped, this experience will have an impact on not just her emotional state but her future children if she choose to have any after this experience, her experience with her future husband again if that is her choice, etc, etc... See that pattern. The same applies for all other social issues, climatic issues and spiritual issues etc. and time will confirm that fact as a natural law. I wish life occurred in a vacuum as you perceived it and everything exists independent of everything else but it doesn't, though I know that makes it easier for you to deal with and digest and move on. So you get over that hump. The prosperity that you and this nation enjoys was due in large part to the raping of my ancestors (yes I said raping, have you noticed that African-Americans are physically different in appearance from Africans, generally). The virtually free labor set this country ahead of all of the world in Gross National Product during the period of slavery and that profit was turned into enormous wealth in which we all still benefit from, just some benefit from it more than others. My request to all of you if you have read this far; Try to come up with a economic model that retrospectively looks at this country with the absence of slavery. Realistically and sincerely do you think this country would be what it is today? I don't expect any honesty or anyone to agree or even to read all of my opinion but for those of you who are open minded and empathetic enough to do so, don't be sucked into the vacuum of isolated statistics. The world is much more complicated than that.

Posted by MinoritySouth on August 30, 2007 at 9:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think I made it a little too subversive, so I am adding. This young woman may have been raped and if so it will affect her for a lifetime. Now let's compare that to millions Africans enslaved and each one of them if they survived that journey across the Atlantic(more died in transits than all of the holocaust) , spent a life time not one drunken night being violated for the next 400 years and then after that, my ancestors were cast aside like garbage (more empathy is shown for pit bulls, no offense to the pit bulls they are sentient beings as well..) and we are SIMPLY still dealing with all of those issues up to this very day, hence the horrific stats of self destruction and a lack of value for life... Think about it, many of the hardest criminals apologize to their victims and the families of their victims in the face of justice in a court of law. WHERE IS OUR APOLOGY!! Yeah, I got some bagage I am carrying, you got it, I have a bit of a grudge or an axe to grind as some would call it. I know it is unhealthy but I manage but some can't manage and it comes out in a very negative way. I wish I lived a simple life or in the vacuous state that Jammer experiences.

Posted by tulip07 on August 31, 2007 at 1:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To clear a few things up- I was there the night she was raped. I am one of the friends she with that night. Both the Post and Courier and the News channels got a few facts incorrect.

We were at Beerworks, around 130, and we were finishing our drinks before we left. All of us were sober enough to drive home that night, so we weren't too drunk to notice she was gone. We looked around and realized she was gone. We called her, she didn't answer the phone. We walked outside to see if she was nearby and she wasn't. We figured she was trying to walk home by herself, which was not smart, since she lives by the Citadel. But it was not safe for us to go out looking for her, especially since we did not know which way she went.

She told us the next day that she got picked up by two black guys (I would love to break the racial stereotype, but its true that they were black). They gave her something(drugs) and her memory was slow-motion and fuzzy. They raped her, choked her, and hit her. Somehow they left her alone long enough for her to escape, wearing clothes she found on the floor. She ran until she ran into a cop car, remembering that she saw a Nassau St. sign. (Her friends did not pick her up. That is where it is wrong.) The cop took her to the hospital, (thats how they know she was raped, MinoritySouth- she was examined) then she was taken to a Women Against Rape center in North Charleston, then taken home.

Then she called us from her roommate's phone to let us know she was okay, but that all of this had happened.

No, she shouldn't have walked home alone, and she knew that. I'm sure her parents taught her not to walk home alone, but when you have had a few drinks you are not thinking clearly. And for people wondering why we didn't notice she was gone- you cannot possibly know where every one of your friends are while you are at a bar. But we did notice, and we did try to find her afterwards. It could happen to you or one of your friends too, so please don't judge us. We feel guilty enough.

And also, she wasn't a rich sorority girl. She was a normal girl who made a mistake and is paying for it.